Now a life sentence is 12 years....

[Mark V8]

An insult to the dead boy.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080808/tuk-uk-brit...
Crimes of passion, out of revenge or in furtherence of theft. All inexcusable but at least they have an element of motive to them - and usually a heavier sentence.
This lowlife murdered for the sake of it. Pure evil. Should have his bks chopped off and sent to live on a 'special island'. Now theres deterrent sentencing.
The judge had an opportunity to send a message to a certain section of todays youth, but he chose not to.
Why, I wonder......its almost as though these crimes must not be discouraged in order to keep the headlines frequent and the morale of the public down, keep 'em spending and drinking....
This murderer will be out at 28. Would you give him a job ? Or perhaps he could be your new neighbour? Future son-in-law even....?
He'll spend his 'time' wising up on how to scam, fight and lie to the parole board when the time comes.
Or, he'll have the st kicked out of him on a regular basis and quietly top himself.
But we'll probably never know.

[Uncle Fester]

Life is cheap.

Jail is expensive to run, and the fools signed us up for a European no capital punishment treaty.

So wrong.

[King Herald]

Dinnegan's mother Lorraine said:

about her son in an impact statement, read to the court by her eldest son James, that he had a "great sense of humour", whose smile lit up the house

What the hell is an impact statement?

Another catchy word the media have dreamed up?

[East Coast]

yet again its black youth's committing murder.not got the stats to hand but must be at least 90% of blacks either knifing or shooting some innocent human being to death.
this lad is white,if it were the other way round,im sure the Racist card would have been shown!!!

[Dale19]

It only dawned on me tonight how widespread this is getting.


Saw a mate on a local car park, pulled on there for a quick chin wag, large group of people, 25+, I ask whats going on, apparently, "theres some beef", righto, i`ll hang about and watch this


I do a bit of digging, nobody can explain why the two lads are "beefing", it would appear they just dont like eachother, no confrontation has lead to this, no previous fights etc.


So, lad comes down with some friends, around 10 of them, the 2 lads get near eachother, one pulls a "shank" odd term that, but it would appear he just didnt have the bottle to use it in the end, and scarpered up into the estate before the dog was set on him.


Pathetic, that over nothing, someone is willing to pull a knife, very sad state of affairs

[Mark V8]

King Herald said:

Dinnegan's mother Lorraine said:

about her son in an impact statement, read to the court by her eldest son James, that he had a "great sense of humour", whose smile lit up the house

What the hell is an impact statement?

Another catchy word the media have dreamed up?

No. Its a victim impact statement, made by the victim or those close to them to allow the jury to see the repercussive effects of the actions of scum like this.
Might of made her feel a little better to do so, don't you think ?

[EDLT]

Can't his lawyer get a prison sentence too for blatantly lying? Self-defence ffs.

[Jimbeaux]

A fellow here that led an identity theft ring that stole 11,000 identities is facing a life sentence. Barely harsh enough.

[King Herald]

Mark V8 said:

No. Its a victim impact statement, made by the victim or those close to them to allow the jury to see the repercussive effects of the actions of scum like this.
Might of made her feel a little better to do so, don't you think ?

Ah, I see. It sounded like something the media would invent to sell newspapers. I'm not sure how the jury would react to it, as they have to decide whether scumbag actually did the crime or not, based on evidence they are shown, not on the emotions of the mum of the supposed victim.

Dale19 said:

So, lad comes down with some friends, around 10 of them, the 2 lads get near each other, one pulls a "shank" odd term that, but it would appear he just didnt have the bottle to use it in the end, and scarpered up into the estate before the dog was set on him.


Pathetic, that over nothing, someone is willing to pull a knife, very sad state of affairs

Some twenty years ago a very similar thing happened outside my local late night watering hole, the Brahms and Liszt, in Stafford, but the guy with the knife was goaded on, and made a half hearted thrust at the other guy. Unfortunately the other guy chose to make his own move at the same time, the knife caught him in the heart, he was dead in minutes. I left the country soon after but I believe knife boy got 'life' for it.

He was 18.

[Maxf]

For a life sentence, is the culprit bound over for life after release? ie, anymore crime and they go straight back inside?

[falcemob]

news report said:

Chin, who had denied murder, will serve a minimum of 12 years after being found guilty last month

It does say minimum and from the people I know that have been inside, only a couple I will admit, the parole boards are not as stupid as you may think.

Edited by falcemob on Saturday 9th August 08:15

[Mark V8]

King Herald said:

Mark V8 said:

No. Its a victim impact statement, made by the victim or those close to them to allow the jury to see the repercussive effects of the actions of scum like this.
Might of made her feel a little better to do so, don't you think ?

Ah, I see. It sounded like something the media would invent to sell newspapers. I'm not sure how the jury would react to it, as they have to decide whether scumbag actually did the crime or not, based on evidence they are shown, not on the emotions of the mum of the supposed victim.

Sorry, my mistake. Its purpose is to assist the judge with sentencing, NOT to allow the jury to decide....

[eccles]

East Coast said:

yet again its black youth's committing murder.not got the stats to hand but must be at least 90% of blacks either knifing or shooting some innocent human being to death.
this lad is white,if it were the other way round,im sure the Racist card would have been shown!!!

So you're saying 90% of all black people are going round knifing and shooting poor innocent people to death?

[groucho]

eccles said:

East Coast said:

yet again its black youth's committing murder.not got the stats to hand but must be at least 90% of blacks either knifing or shooting some innocent human being to death.
this lad is white,if it were the other way round,im sure the Racist card would have been shown!!!

So you're saying 90% of all black people are going round knifing and shooting poor innocent people to death?

When you see programs like the Tribe, the blacks in Africa all look so friendly.

[anonymous-user]

i watched the first episode of the second series of The Tudors last night, they boiled someone alive because he poisoned some people.

[falcemob]

eccles said:

East Coast said:

yet again its black youth's committing murder.not got the stats to hand but must be at least 90% of blacks either knifing or shooting some innocent human being to death.
this lad is white,if it were the other way round,im sure the Racist card would have been shown!!!

So you're saying 90% of all black people are going round knifing and shooting poor innocent people to death?

Edited to read post properly: I think the figure is more like 90% of these crimes are commited by blacks, although the exact figure could be slightly out either way, but I suppose you'll now call us racist for stating the bleeding obvious.

Edited by falcemob on Saturday 9th August 10:49

[knight]

Maxf said:

For a life sentence, is the culprit bound over for life after release? ie, anymore crime and they go straight back inside?

That's my understanding of it.

[simba1]

falcemob said:

eccles said:

East Coast said:

yet again its black youth's committing murder.not got the stats to hand but must be at least 90% of blacks either knifing or shooting some innocent human being to death.
this lad is white,if it were the other way round,im sure the Racist card would have been shown!!!

So you're saying 90% of all black people are going round knifing and shooting poor innocent people to death?

Edited to read post properly: I think the figure is more like 90% of these crimes are commited by blacks, although the exact figure could be slightly out either way, but I suppose you'll now call us racist for stating the bleeding obvious.

Edited by falcemob on Saturday 9th August 10:49

I would say most of the knife and gun crime affects the black community ( at least in London) more than any other but still I would hazard less than 5% of the black population have been directly affected by the crime. I think the media is making this kinds of crime appear to be on he increase while in reality they are not.
And really life should mean life and I wouldn't mind my tax money used to built more prisons.

[Geronimo]

Indeed, oh, but Stephen Lawrences case made national headlines for absolutely ages, but when it's the other way round (as it is the vast majority of the time) race is never brought into it.