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audidoody

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8,598 posts

287 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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"Ben Parkinson volunteered to serve his country on the Afghan front line - and paid a terrible price.
The young paratrooper suffered a total of 37 terrible injuries when he was blown up by a landmine.
He lost both his legs and sustained grievous damage to his spine, skull, pelvis, hands, spleen and ribcage, leaving him in a coma for months.
Incredibly, 23-year-old Ben is still alive almost a year later - according to his doctors the most badly-injured soldier ever to survive.
All his mother wants is to buy a bungalow so she can care for him there.
Yet as recompense for his ruined life, Ben has been offered only £152,150 - little more than half the maximum award for maimed military personnel and less than a third of the £484,000 doled out to an RAF typist who claimed she had suffered repetitive strain injury to her thumb."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7553678.stm



"A former Manchester United player whose career was ended when when he was injured in a tackle has been awarded more than £4.3m in compensation.
Ben Collett broke his leg in a reserve game against Middlesbrough five years ago, at the age of 18.
Boro player Gary Smith and his club admitted liability for the injury before compensation was decided at London's High Court"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-478178/Wor...


furious

H2DaE

1,338 posts

237 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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what does the second one have to do with the first one? The government didn't pay that United players compensation so I can't see why the 2 are related

Though that soldiers payout was pathetic it's hardly Ben Collett/Middlesborough FC/Man Utd's fault is it?

215cu

2,956 posts

241 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Indeed, what a shadow of Great Britain we have become.

I would have thought adequate compensation for the footballer would be to give him a free education up to the age of 25 and stipend to see him through college. End. Of.

As for the soldier, somewhere to live, his pension in full and someone to care for him too. Hardly going to bankrupt the country.

Sadly it will not change until every single nanny-state, interfering, guardian reading non-job politically correct twunt is stacking shelves in Tescos.

Instead, they literally burn £60bn of our money a year.

£60bn, think about it, £60bn. Twice the defence budget.

Edited by 215cu on Monday 11th August 11:27

audidoody

Original Poster:

8,598 posts

287 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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H2DaE said:
what does the second one have to do with the first one? The government didn't pay that United players compensation so I can't see why the 2 are related

Though that soldiers payout was pathetic it's hardly Ben Collett/Middlesborough FC/Man Utd's fault is it?
Ahem ..

Where did I say it was FC/ManUtd's fault?
Where did I say the two were related?

It's an observation on the values our society places on people

If you don't get it move on.

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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215cu said:
Indeed, what a shadow of Great Britain we have become.

I would have thought adequate compensation for the footballer would be to give him a free education up to the age of 25 and stipend to see him through college. End. Of.
Playing DA here...if you were prevented from carrying on your occupation through someone else's negligence wouldn't you want to be able to recoup lost earnings? The footballer case and the soldier aren't really related.The government should look after injured servicemen properly and give them what they need to live as full a life as they can...

audidoody

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8,598 posts

287 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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"The government should look after injured servicemen properly and give them what they need to live as full a life as they can."

Cheers. You got it.

jamesgrrr

3,781 posts

252 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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audidoody said:
H2DaE said:
what does the second one have to do with the first one? The government didn't pay that United players compensation so I can't see why the 2 are related

Though that soldiers payout was pathetic it's hardly Ben Collett/Middlesborough FC/Man Utd's fault is it?
Ahem ..

Where did I say it was FC/ManUtd's fault?
Where did I say the two were related?

It's an observation on the values our society places on people

If you don't get it move on.
It isn't the value our society places on people, you are comparing the value a multibillion pound industry places on their stars (and how much the insurance agreed to value it on) and a cash strapped government, not really comparable?


69 coupe

2,459 posts

242 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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He was playing for Middlesborough, his career would have ended very quick after thatwink

edited to add-
Oh bks should have read the question anyhow he played for man u, on second thoughts his career would have dived very quickly after that smile

Edited by 69 coupe on Monday 11th August 11:41

H2DaE

1,338 posts

237 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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audidoody said:
H2DaE said:
what does the second one have to do with the first one? The government didn't pay that United players compensation so I can't see why the 2 are related

Though that soldiers payout was pathetic it's hardly Ben Collett/Middlesborough FC/Man Utd's fault is it?
Ahem ..

Where did I say it was FC/ManUtd's fault?
Where did I say the two were related?

It's an observation on the values our society places on people

If you don't get it move on.
I got it, and agree that the government should look after injured servicemen better than they currently do.

the thing I didn't get was why you posted the Man Utd story underneath it, I'm pretty sure it was so people would say "FFS how can someone who's served their country only get a measly amount of compensation when an injured footballer gets £4million?"

The thing is it is a privately owned football club (or their insurers) that is stumping up the money for Ben Collett's compensation and the government paying the injured soldiers compensation.

If the government paid the footballers compensation then I could understand the link, however as it is the two are totally unrelated.

I will state again (and did in my original post) that I think the money given to the soldier is pathetic considering the service he has done for his country

Davey S2

13,394 posts

285 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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215cu said:
I would have thought adequate compensation for the footballer would be to give him a free education up to the age of 25 and stipend to see him through college. End. Of.
Why?

If your career was cut short because of something that happened that was not your fault wouldnt you want to be compensated based on what level of income your job would have provided you in the future?

Everyone deserves to have a certain standard of living in these circumstances and the soldier payouts are way too small but the 2 are unrelated.

If you were a brilliant young surgeon with a fast rising reputation earning £200K a year and rising would you be happy to be given compensation based on £25K income a year if you were involved in an accident which ruined your career? I dont think so.



Driller

8,310 posts

309 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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H2DaE said:
what does the second one have to do with the first one? The government didn't pay that United players compensation so I can't see why the 2 are related

Though that soldiers payout was pathetic it's hardly Ben Collett/Middlesborough FC/Man Utd's fault is it?
It's called "perspective".

Neil_H

15,418 posts

282 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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It's disgusting how the soldier has been treated when compared to the typist, but I don't really agree with the football comparison. Footballers are overpaid ccensoredts but that's the fault of the mostly-idiot public who pay to see them on Sky, not the government, the compensation is merely a product of that.

OneOn!

99 posts

219 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Neil_H said:
It's disgusting how the soldier has been treated when compared to the typist, but I don't really agree with the football comparison. Footballers are overpaid ccensoredts but that's the fault of the mostly-idiot public who pay to see them on Sky, not the government, the compensation is merely a product of that.
Footballers are not over paid.

They are paid the going rate in a free market.

catso

16,539 posts

298 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Neil_H said:
It's disgusting how the soldier has been treated when compared to the typist, but I don't really agree with the football comparison. Footballers are overpaid ccensoredts but that's the fault of the mostly-idiot public who pay to see them on Sky, not the government, the compensation is merely a product of that.
Indeed, it's a pity our armed forces can't refuse to fight any of Bush/Bliar's stupid wars until they're given the correct equipment, pay and compensation if it all goes to shite, absolutely ferkin' disgraceful and the 'establishment' should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves - sadly shame is something lacking in modern politics.... furious


Davey S2

13,394 posts

285 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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OneOn! said:
Neil_H said:
It's disgusting how the soldier has been treated when compared to the typist, but I don't really agree with the football comparison. Footballers are overpaid ccensoredts but that's the fault of the mostly-idiot public who pay to see them on Sky, not the government, the compensation is merely a product of that.
Footballers are not over paid.

They are paid the going rate in a free market.
Correct.

V8_GWA

139 posts

283 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Not defending the government by any stretch, but would just like to point out that the Armed Forces compensation scheme has been overhauled in the last couple of months. LBdr Parkinson will receive just over £500K and a pension for life.

As I say, not wishing to defend the government's position, or suggest that the increased amount is enough, but just want make sure the facts inform the debate.

Cheers

Neil_H

15,418 posts

282 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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OneOn! said:
Neil_H said:
It's disgusting how the soldier has been treated when compared to the typist, but I don't really agree with the football comparison. Footballers are overpaid ccensoredts but that's the fault of the mostly-idiot public who pay to see them on Sky, not the government, the compensation is merely a product of that.
Footballers are not over paid.

They are paid the going rate in a free market.
Unfortunately you're right, but I'll still maintain that they are ccensoredts.

big_rob_sydney

3,671 posts

225 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Regarding the payment of footballers, yes its a free market. That doesnt change how obscene it is though. A footballer earns more than a surgeon who saves people lives on a regular basis.

Just goes to show what our society values.

Davey S2

13,394 posts

285 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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big_rob_sydney said:
Just goes to show what our society values.
I wont mention Simon Cowell being paid £50M a year to host X-Factor then

Davi

17,153 posts

251 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Neil_H said:
OneOn! said:
Neil_H said:
It's disgusting how the soldier has been treated when compared to the typist, but I don't really agree with the football comparison. Footballers are overpaid ccensoredts but that's the fault of the mostly-idiot public who pay to see them on Sky, not the government, the compensation is merely a product of that.
Footballers are not over paid.

They are paid the going rate in a free market.
Unfortunately you're right, but I'll still maintain that they are ccensoredts.
Unfortunately that applies to many high paid people out there, though I agree footballers do warrant being singled out as probably the biggest bunch of ccensoredts.