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ewenm

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28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Anyone else watching this? Interesting concept.

captainzep

13,306 posts

223 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Nope.

I'm about to watch a film called 'Les deux soeurs' by Marc Dorcel.

Google is your friend.

ewenm

Original Poster:

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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captainzep said:
Nope.

I'm about to watch a film called 'Les deux soeurs' by Marc Dorcel.

Google is your friend.
I prefer the real thing thanks.

captainzep

13,306 posts

223 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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ewenm said:
captainzep said:
Nope.

I'm about to watch a film called 'Les deux soeurs' by Marc Dorcel.

Google is your friend.
I prefer the real thing thanks.
I didn't realise you're a Christian.

I meant no offence.

Sorry.




ewenm

Original Poster:

28,506 posts

276 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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captainzep said:
ewenm said:
captainzep said:
Nope.

I'm about to watch a film called 'Les deux soeurs' by Marc Dorcel.

Google is your friend.
I prefer the real thing thanks.
I didn't realise you're a Christian.

I meant no offence.

Sorry.
Calling me a Christian is offensivewink Watching people fking isn't my thing. Anyway, enjoy yourself.

captainzep

13,306 posts

223 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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To be honest you've put me off my rhythm slightly.

As I climb the onanist's peak, my mind is dancing between Oksana's pert boobies and community regeneration ideas.

I shouldn't have replied to your original post.

Just like everyone else.

insurance_jon

4,099 posts

277 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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I was born in Castleford, the town in question, it's probably the first time we are getting to hear the full story.

ewenm

Original Poster:

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276 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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It's a good bridge, but I'm not sure how long it'll look so pristine.

Mars

10,164 posts

245 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Bloody interesting programme. I know it's a relatively small engineering project but I really get a kick out of bridges. Good show.

captainzep

13,306 posts

223 months

Monday 11th August 2008
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Can people stop posting to this thread please?

I tried to make it look like I was cooler for watching porn but every sincere post about the actual TV programme weakens my standpoint and makes me look like a w@nker idiot.

Edited by captainzep on Monday 11th August 22:04

shirt

25,520 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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watched this as i grew up a few miles away.

bloody pointless. £3million for a bridge less than a hundred yards from an existing bridge, linking a main road to a few poxy terraces. excellent planning. rolleyes

Monki

1,233 posts

222 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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captainzep said:
Can people stop posting to this thread please?

I tried to make it look like I was cooler for watching porn but every sincere post about the actual TV programme weakens my standpoint and makes me look like a w@nker idiot.

Edited by captainzep on Monday 11th August 22:04
'Perverse Leah' is another good french film wink

nail_it

968 posts

239 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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shirt said:
watched this as i grew up a few miles away.

bloody pointless. £3million for a bridge less than a hundred yards from an existing bridge, linking a main road to a few poxy terraces. excellent planning. rolleyes
That was not it's soul aim.
The regeneration of the water frontage is vital and try walking across the road bridge.
You take your life in your hands yikes
Cas deserves the funds and it's right to be improved.
Monies have gone to the other 4 towns in regen but they have been by-passed in comparison.
And NO, I'm not from the area but have been an investor because it ain't all as bad as painted!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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yep, very interesting to see the development

just astounded that the land owner thought a reasonable bid was £150k when he settled for £40k

still, the £2k originally offered was a pisstake

wonder what the terrace owners will make of the up-lift in property value scratchchin

Mars

10,164 posts

245 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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Yeah I wondered at the thought-process of the land owners pricing. Odd that.

The original road bridge did look dangerous to pedestrians. I'm looking forward to the rest of the series.

I also note that neither Google nor Microsoft have the bridge in their maps. Microsoft doesn't even have the houses in the new development - the ones whose owners didn't want the bridge in the original location.

shirt

25,520 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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nail_it said:
shirt said:
watched this as i grew up a few miles away.

bloody pointless. £3million for a bridge less than a hundred yards from an existing bridge, linking a main road to a few poxy terraces. excellent planning. rolleyes
That was not it's soul aim.
The regeneration of the water frontage is vital and try walking across the road bridge.
You take your life in your hands yikes
Cas deserves the funds and it's right to be improved.
Monies have gone to the other 4 towns in regen but they have been by-passed in comparison.
And NO, I'm not from the area but have been an investor because it ain't all as bad as painted!
firstly, how is developing that area seen as vital? what could you possibly use it for without demolishing the existing shop buildings between the allinsons mill and the roundabout? there's sod all space and the riverbank area could well be regarded as dangerous.

the road bridge is paved on each side. traffic can't hoon over it as its a blind summit with a roundabout at one end and a petrol station/bus stop on the other. its hardly taking your life in your hands, though i suppose seeing its mainly drunks and old duffers round that way you may have a point.

being from the general area, i don't mind labelling 'cas' as a complete hole. its admirable they are trying to develop it but the programme very much reminded me of the old adage "you can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter".

very little of the town was shown in the programme. it is a largely deprived market town with little in the way of employment, left largely to decline for decades despite being within spitting distance of the A1/M1/M62. perhaps the only decent thing to happen to it in years - the development of one of the old mineheads into a leisure/retail park - wasn't even mentioned.

the surrounding has attracted investment as you mention, but its hardly come thick and fast. the nearby 'millenium village' project is not even completed yet, 8yrs after it was due to be inhabited...

seemed pretty laughable to me that the problems of a deprived area could be solved by that bridge. i generally like kevin mcloud but i just can't see any point in the project shown. it just seemed to me that the council weren' that interested but were possibly persuaded to massively extend the budget merely for the prospect of some primetime C4 publicity.


sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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shirt said:
very little of the town was shown in the programme. it is a largely deprived market town with little in the way of employment, left largely to decline for decades despite being within spitting distance of the A1/M1/M62. perhaps the only decent thing to happen to it in years - the development of one of the old mineheads into a leisure/retail park - wasn't even mentioned.

the surrounding has attracted investment as you mention, but its hardly come thick and fast. the nearby 'millenium village' project is not even completed yet, 8yrs after it was due to be inhabited...

seemed pretty laughable to me that the problems of a deprived area could be solved by that bridge. i generally like kevin mcloud but i just can't see any point in the project shown. it just seemed to me that the council weren' that interested but were possibly persuaded to massively extend the budget merely for the prospect of some primetime C4 publicity.
isn't it a 5 step/phase regeneration plan?

shirt

25,520 posts

232 months

Tuesday 12th August 2008
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well i hope the next ones are a little more ambitious!


don't know tbh. trying to find some kind of overview/outline scheme on the tinterweb but no joy so far.

would be interested to see what the full plan is. certainly there is plenty to play with [i.e. lots to knock down and start again!] but you hit the greenbelt pretty quickly on the other side of the river, and have the shadow of the chemical works to contend with if they want upmarket residential use.

i'd welcome a coherent scheme if there is one, but i fear its going to be silly amounts of money spent on isolated pockets throughout the area. if thats the case then its destined to fail imo.





sleep envy

62,260 posts

280 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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what a fking disaster

playerone

872 posts

241 months

Monday 18th August 2008
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They cant seem to please many of the locals. It seems a couple are driving everything and the rest sit on their front steps drinking beer and moaning.

Anyway it said in the paper last week it was terrible up tupnorth and they should all move down south so who cares... wink