Rape Compensation
Discussion
Intersting story..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7555299.stm
14 other cases as well. Perhaps this will go a little way to shifting the notion that short skirts etc are 'mitigating circumstances' / reasons why someone was raped.. along with the 'she was asking for it mentality'. I do hope so.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7555299.stm
14 other cases as well. Perhaps this will go a little way to shifting the notion that short skirts etc are 'mitigating circumstances' / reasons why someone was raped.. along with the 'she was asking for it mentality'. I do hope so.
...I know very little of the circumstances of every rape case..
But whenever they start talking about rape cases etc on the news I cant help feel that (Having been out to some of the places they are talking about) a lot of girls go out to get very drunk and get laid....
Then they regret it in the morning and it imediatly becomes the mans fault....her word against his....
Im not saying that any lass that goes out with a skirt on and has a few drinks is game for having her back doors nocked in, it just seems a bit....I dont know....odd....
But whenever they start talking about rape cases etc on the news I cant help feel that (Having been out to some of the places they are talking about) a lot of girls go out to get very drunk and get laid....
Then they regret it in the morning and it imediatly becomes the mans fault....her word against his....
Im not saying that any lass that goes out with a skirt on and has a few drinks is game for having her back doors nocked in, it just seems a bit....I dont know....odd....
Edited by tegwin on Tuesday 12th August 09:58
How will we know??waiting patiently for vesuvius to wade in.. he has some pretty outspoken views on stuff like this, and from his line of work, with very good reason!!
Personally I very thankful I'm nicely settled down and even if I was single about 10 years past "going out on the pull".
If I was a youngster today I'd be giving serious thought to getting an in-flight recorder surgically implanted just in case someone decided I wasnt the "hunka hunka burning love" they thought I was the night before with the assistance of 20 bacardi breezers and 10 shots of sambuca.
Personally I very thankful I'm nicely settled down and even if I was single about 10 years past "going out on the pull".
If I was a youngster today I'd be giving serious thought to getting an in-flight recorder surgically implanted just in case someone decided I wasnt the "hunka hunka burning love" they thought I was the night before with the assistance of 20 bacardi breezers and 10 shots of sambuca.
A friend spent a year in prison for rape before the girl's friend who he supposedly raped came forward and said they made it up.
He lost his job, his fiancee, his family and most his friends.
His name was thrown around the papers. Hers should be now. He has yet to get anything worthy of being called compensation for this.
It is very one sided, and the media always make it out that every single rape that is reported has actually happened.
He lost his job, his fiancee, his family and most his friends.
His name was thrown around the papers. Hers should be now. He has yet to get anything worthy of being called compensation for this.
It is very one sided, and the media always make it out that every single rape that is reported has actually happened.
Please Please Please before vesivius and several others wade in and brand all women as 'asking for it' because of dress or drink, or lying tarts who cried rape remember that this is not the case.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
smutbag said:
Please Please Please before vesivius and several others wade in and brand all women as 'asking for it' because of dress or drink, or lying tarts who cried rape remember that this is not the case.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
Totally agree, shame the law doesn't work like that.All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
smutbag said:
Please Please Please before vesivius and several others wade in and brand all women as 'asking for it' because of dress or drink, or lying tarts who cried rape remember that this is not the case.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
How is 'rape' defined in the law nowadays !? I do forget !?All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
smutbag said:
Please Please Please before vesivius and several others wade in and brand all women as 'asking for it' because of dress or drink, or lying tarts who cried rape remember that this is not the case.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
Well put and I totally agree.I personally disagree with the fact a man accused of rape can be identified and name spread about the newspapers - so even if he is found not-guilty, HE is still tarred with that brush.
But the woman making the claim is never identified.
The only FAIR way is for both parties to be anonamous (sp?) until a legal verdict is found - if the man is guilty, then his name and face can be spread all over the place, if he is not guilty, then the lying sluts should be so other men dont get worked over by her...
But the woman making the claim is never identified.
The only FAIR way is for both parties to be anonamous (sp?) until a legal verdict is found - if the man is guilty, then his name and face can be spread all over the place, if he is not guilty, then the lying sluts should be so other men dont get worked over by her...
Swilly said:
smutbag said:
Please Please Please before vesivius and several others wade in and brand all women as 'asking for it' because of dress or drink, or lying tarts who cried rape remember that this is not the case.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
How is 'rape' defined in the law nowadays !? I do forget !?All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
I find that very interesting. £11,000 standard compensation for being raped? I doubt any victim would consider it nearly enough.
But (and here's where I get crucified) for those lacking in the integrity department it's a hell of an incentive isn't it?
This poor girl's attacker has never been caught, so there's been no trial, no need to prove anything in a court of law. A similar appearing situation could, I presume, be engineered by the less scrupulous?
But (and here's where I get crucified) for those lacking in the integrity department it's a hell of an incentive isn't it?
This poor girl's attacker has never been caught, so there's been no trial, no need to prove anything in a court of law. A similar appearing situation could, I presume, be engineered by the less scrupulous?
Edited by Justayellowbadge on Tuesday 12th August 10:54
Justayellowbadge said:
I find that very interesting. £11,000 standard compensation for being raped? I doubt any victim would consider it nearly enough.
But (and here's where I get crucified) for those lacking in the integrity department it's a hell of an incentive isn't it?
This poor girl's attacker has never been caught, so there's been no trial, no need to prove anything in a court of law. A similar appearing situation could, I presume, be engineered by the less scruplous?
what an interesting and cynical point... and quite enlightening... But (and here's where I get crucified) for those lacking in the integrity department it's a hell of an incentive isn't it?
This poor girl's attacker has never been caught, so there's been no trial, no need to prove anything in a court of law. A similar appearing situation could, I presume, be engineered by the less scruplous?
Fidgits said:
I personally disagree with the fact a man accused of rape can be identified and name spread about the newspapers - so even if he is found not-guilty, HE is still tarred with that brush.
But the woman making the claim is never identified.
The only FAIR way is for both parties to be anonamous (sp?) until a legal verdict is found - if the man is guilty, then his name and face can be spread all over the place, if he is not guilty, then the lying sluts should be so other men dont get worked over by her...
sounds fair, why should the victim have their face over the news (man or woman). And what about the situation someone mentioned above, a man is found guilty then a later confession from woman proves he isn't after doing time. Woman in such situation should face harsher critism then original wrongly convicted man imo.But the woman making the claim is never identified.
The only FAIR way is for both parties to be anonamous (sp?) until a legal verdict is found - if the man is guilty, then his name and face can be spread all over the place, if he is not guilty, then the lying sluts should be so other men dont get worked over by her...
smutbag said:
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Yes, of course. But then again, you can't deny that alcohol has a large part to play in some rapes - and by that I mean the woman's intake of it, not the man's. There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
For instance, there was a case a few years back where a woman was so drunk that she collapsed on a bench at a railway station. When she came to, she was sitting next to a policewoman who told her she'd been raped - it'd been seen on CCTV (don't ask me why nobody intervened, I don't know!). I can't remember the outcome now - but the fact remains that if she'd managed not to drink herself into oblivion (and it was her choice to do so, her drinks hadn't been spiked), she'd have been able to get herself home safely instead of collapsing in a heap in a public place.
Men accused of rape should never be named in the press until they've been found guilty. Have a search on here for a thread from years ago by Carzee - women can ruin lives just by maliciously inventing things that never happened, and they walk away scot-free. Sure, there are very few false rape claims compared with genuine ones - but even one innocent life ruined by some malicious bint is one too many. Men have lost their wives and children over false rape accusations.
smutbag said:
Please Please Please before vesivius and several others wade in and brand all women as 'asking for it' because of dress or drink, or lying tarts who cried rape remember that this is not the case.
All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
Whilst I agree with your general sentiment, you may be interested to know that in one of the only studies conducted into the validity of accusations by an academic, the study discovered that over 40% of rape allegations are falsified.All men have cocks and the physical strength to carry it out, but it doesn't make them rapists does it? Wearing a short skirt or drinking doesn't make a woman a tart gagging for it.
There are a large number of women out there who have genuinely been raped/abused and the % of false rape accusations is very small in comparison. Attitudes like the above are what prevents women from coming forward with very true cases and as a result there are hundreds of rapists walking free and walking around YOUR women.
Don't brand all women with this brush - it's cruel and unfair to women whose lives have genuinely been ruined by rape.
Girls who ruin mens lives with false claims should be made to suffer the same punishment intended for the man in the first place.
Not what I would consider a 'very small' percentage.
elster said:
A friend spent a year in prison for rape before the girl's friend who he supposedly raped came forward and said they made it up.
He lost his job, his fiancee, his family and most his friends.
His name was thrown around the papers. Hers should be now. He has yet to get anything worthy of being called compensation for this.
It is very one sided, and the media always make it out that every single rape that is reported has actually happened.
Same with my friend, luckily he never went to prison as the girls friend overheard the alledged victim boasting about "all the money she was going get for a little lie". He lost his job, his fiancee, his family and most his friends.
His name was thrown around the papers. Hers should be now. He has yet to get anything worthy of being called compensation for this.
It is very one sided, and the media always make it out that every single rape that is reported has actually happened.
Luckily the truth came out and my friend was safe, although his reputation was dragged through the mud, and let's face it, who would employ someone who has been accused of rape and had their name spread all over the local news? Chap has moved away now as his life was hell in his home town
The girl never received any punishment apart from a telling off. Her life continues to be fine, my friend has had to start all over again.
I completely agree that women who falsely accuse men of rape should face the same sentance a man would for committing rape. They not only ruin the lives of the man, but also cast doubt on genuine victims.
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