How do I tell its a HC?,
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Hello chaps,
Having been an avid fan of TVR for ages, I'm finally in the market to buy my first one. I've been doing a bit of reading and see that the 4.0ltr and the 4.0ltr HC are quite different power wise. I want to make sure the car I buy is a HC. So how can I tell I'm looking at a HC and not a 4.0ltr. Is there something on the chassis plate that proves the HC, or written on the engine?
Either that, or go for the 4.5ltr one, although I can't seem to find many of them.
Having been an avid fan of TVR for ages, I'm finally in the market to buy my first one. I've been doing a bit of reading and see that the 4.0ltr and the 4.0ltr HC are quite different power wise. I want to make sure the car I buy is a HC. So how can I tell I'm looking at a HC and not a 4.0ltr. Is there something on the chassis plate that proves the HC, or written on the engine?
Either that, or go for the 4.5ltr one, although I can't seem to find many of them.
Edited by jaxdanjo on Tuesday 12th August 20:20
It should be in the hand book or look original sales doc. Also if it revs really freely sound great and maybe is a little lumpy at 1800rpm its a HC .Drive a standard 4.0 then test a HC.
Or just go for a 500 as after a few months of anything else you will want a 500 !!!
Or just go for a 500 as after a few months of anything else you will want a 500 !!!
Edited by Rum Runner on Tuesday 12th August 20:57
jaxdanjo said:
pilgrim13 said:
jaxdanjo said:
Well considering the 4.0ltr non HC is 230-240bhp, and the 4.0ltr HC is closer to 280bhp. Surely that's enough difference to warrant going for the HC 
Dont believe everything you readThanks guys, it seems the safest bet is to get the 5ltr one then
Just been checking insurance, there's £50 difference between the 4ltr and the 5ltr, lol
Quoted £511 fully comp, protected no claims from Priviledge.
29years old, 9 years no claims bonus, in South East London
RESULT.!!!!
Now I just need to sell my car..... anyone want to buy a Prodrive STI Impreza?
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/SUBA...
Just been checking insurance, there's £50 difference between the 4ltr and the 5ltr, lol
Quoted £511 fully comp, protected no claims from Priviledge.
29years old, 9 years no claims bonus, in South East London
RESULT.!!!!
Now I just need to sell my car..... anyone want to buy a Prodrive STI Impreza?
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/SUBA...
Edited by jaxdanjo on Tuesday 12th August 22:28
Edited by jaxdanjo on Tuesday 12th August 22:28
Edited by jaxdanjo on Tuesday 12th August 22:48
[quote=jaxdanjo]
RESULT.!!!!
Now I just need to sell my car..... anyone want to buy a Prodrive STI Impreza?
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/SUBA...
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You are growing up well young sir and I applause the move. The 500 Chim is a monster and it will require every ounce of your concentration and driving ability. The Chim doesn't do the stuff that the Impreza does for you but the driving sensation is truly awesome. I am also in south (east) london so if you need a trip out or just a meet to prattle on about TVR's then PM me.
Welcome to the madhouse where all grins are permanent and getting that pint of milk from the corner shop takes in excess of an hour and 25 litres of V Power!
RESULT.!!!!
Now I just need to sell my car..... anyone want to buy a Prodrive STI Impreza?
http://search.autotrader.co.uk/es-uk/www/cars/SUBA...
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You are growing up well young sir and I applause the move. The 500 Chim is a monster and it will require every ounce of your concentration and driving ability. The Chim doesn't do the stuff that the Impreza does for you but the driving sensation is truly awesome. I am also in south (east) london so if you need a trip out or just a meet to prattle on about TVR's then PM me.
Welcome to the madhouse where all grins are permanent and getting that pint of milk from the corner shop takes in excess of an hour and 25 litres of V Power!
When you say, the chim won't do things the Impreza does for you, I take it you mean that it won't handle like its on rails and make dump valve noises at every gearchange. If thats the case then no worries. The Impreza is a lovely car and bullet proof to boot. I find her hard work though. The 6 speed box is very close between gears, your in 4th by the time you get to 30 when driving sensibly. I'm looking forward to the HUGE torque with a V8 soundtrack with the roof off.
Is there a big difference between the 4ltrHC and the 450, stat wise they are almost identical.?
I know the obvious difference in that one has an extra 500cc. What I mean is, do they drive differently, is there a noticable performance difference?
I know the obvious difference in that one has an extra 500cc. What I mean is, do they drive differently, is there a noticable performance difference?
Edited by jaxdanjo on Wednesday 13th August 12:40
I was under the impression that "HC" stood for "High Compression".
If you get the 500 then they are all "HC".
Also, if you are used to an Impreza STi you're unlikely to be impressed by the performance of a 400. You should be looking at at least a 450 or even a 500.
There is a very nice 500 in Cherry Pearl at Racing Green at the moment. Only 2 previous owners and the most recent owner had it for 6½ years.
If you get the 500 then they are all "HC".
Also, if you are used to an Impreza STi you're unlikely to be impressed by the performance of a 400. You should be looking at at least a 450 or even a 500.
There is a very nice 500 in Cherry Pearl at Racing Green at the moment. Only 2 previous owners and the most recent owner had it for 6½ years.
Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 13th August 12:58
When driving around in convoy, there is very little to tell apart the 4.0, 4.0HC, 4.3, 4.5, 5.0. Only if you're on a track will it make much difference. There was 20bhp between my 450 and a mates 500!
When on your own, they are all plenty fast enough.
TVR is very different from an Impreza is every aspect. You say the Impreza is hard work? With the noise, the torque, the power delivery, no stability control, traction control, no 4 wheel system, just to name a few things, the TVR is a hell of a lot more hard work.
Having said that, they are both a lot of fun. Have a go in a few, see which one you prefer the feel of and don't be too swayed by the number on the back. - Condition of the car is just so much more important.
When on your own, they are all plenty fast enough.
TVR is very different from an Impreza is every aspect. You say the Impreza is hard work? With the noise, the torque, the power delivery, no stability control, traction control, no 4 wheel system, just to name a few things, the TVR is a hell of a lot more hard work.
Having said that, they are both a lot of fun. Have a go in a few, see which one you prefer the feel of and don't be too swayed by the number on the back. - Condition of the car is just so much more important.
I've only ever been in a 450, and remember the thing pulling like mad in every gear. I want to make sure that the TVR that I buy gives the same feeling.
When I say the Impreza is hard work, I don't mean when driving it enthusiasically, thats when its the most fun!! The more concentration needed for driving, I find more involving. I had a Supra TT before that was effortless power, but very little fun. The car was as predictable as night follows day. The hard work I refer to is when its in traffic, you're up and down the gears sooo much, it gets quite annoying. There never seems to be an appropriate gear to be in. There is also the 4x4 bog down which is annoying, then there's the turbo lag.
When I say the Impreza is hard work, I don't mean when driving it enthusiasically, thats when its the most fun!! The more concentration needed for driving, I find more involving. I had a Supra TT before that was effortless power, but very little fun. The car was as predictable as night follows day. The hard work I refer to is when its in traffic, you're up and down the gears sooo much, it gets quite annoying. There never seems to be an appropriate gear to be in. There is also the 4x4 bog down which is annoying, then there's the turbo lag.
Not to put a downer on it but tbh I dont think you will find a Chim is much better in traffic. It may be a large lazy V8, but it is a tuned one with a rather basic ECU so it will get hot and shunt a bit etc. I often find myself willing the car in front to speed up just a bit so I can open the throttle an extra mm to prevent it lurching.
My Golf GTI will trickle around at any speed in any gear no problems and probably will go A to B faster than the tiv but wheres the fun it that
My Golf GTI will trickle around at any speed in any gear no problems and probably will go A to B faster than the tiv but wheres the fun it that
dogbucket said:
Not to put a downer on it but tbh I dont think you will find a Chim is much better in traffic. It may be a large lazy V8, but it is a tuned one with a rather basic ECU so it will get hot and shunt a bit etc. I often find myself willing the car in front to speed up just a bit so I can open the throttle an extra mm to prevent it lurching.
My Golf GTI will trickle around at any speed in any gear no problems and probably will go A to B faster than the tiv but wheres the fun it that
+ 1My Golf GTI will trickle around at any speed in any gear no problems and probably will go A to B faster than the tiv but wheres the fun it that
JonRB said:
I was under the impression that "HC" stood for "High Compression".
If you get the 500 then they are all "HC".
Also, if you are used to an Impreza STi you're unlikely to be impressed by the performance of a 400. You should be looking at at least a 450 or even a 500.
There is a very nice 500 in Cherry Pearl at Racing Green at the moment. Only 2 previous owners and the most recent owner had it for 6½ years.
bit out of my price range that one If you get the 500 then they are all "HC".
Also, if you are used to an Impreza STi you're unlikely to be impressed by the performance of a 400. You should be looking at at least a 450 or even a 500.
There is a very nice 500 in Cherry Pearl at Racing Green at the moment. Only 2 previous owners and the most recent owner had it for 6½ years.
Edited by JonRB on Wednesday 13th August 12:58
Lovely car though
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