George Orwell was correct
George Orwell was correct
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Parrot of Doom

Original Poster:

23,075 posts

265 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

fk this government. I'm going to start encrypting all the data I can, Onion routing sounds like a good place to start.

Fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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time to dig out the PGP methinks..

Hedders

24,460 posts

278 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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It won't be long before we get hauled in front of a judge to try and prove we were 'fabricating the truth a little' on internet forums.

"Your honour, I know i said I got airbourne of that bridge, I was just trying trying to big myself up"

"Dangerous driving confession, 12 months ban. Next!"



Edited by Hedders on Wednesday 13th August 12:14

Jasandjules

72,681 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Someone needs to take this to the ECHR.

fatboy b

9,665 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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The Article said:
The information will include the date and times of the log-in and log-off from the internet – the “who, when, and where” of communication – but not the contents of calls, messages or lists of websites which had been accessed.
confused


Timsta

2,779 posts

277 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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I'm so glad I run my own email server.


Which I've now just set to encrypt communications. wink

Edited by Timsta on Wednesday 13th August 12:21

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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fatboy b said:
The Article said:
The information will include the date and times of the log-in and log-off from the internet – the “who, when, and where” of communication – but not the contents of calls, messages or lists of websites which had been accessed.
confused
How do they work out the who and where? You can't even work out which machine behind a router is accessing stuff let alone who was on that machine.

Anyway, aren't most people connected 24/7 via broadband ? who logs on and off to the internet these days ? smile

Timmy35

13,014 posts

229 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Interseting example of the scope creep predicted by those against the police state. And ignored by everyone else. "I have nothing to fear I'm not a criminal or a terrorist"

Hedders

24,460 posts

278 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Timmy35 said:
Interseting example of the scope creep predicted by those against the police state. And ignored by everyone else. "I have nothing to fear I'm not a criminal or a terrorist"
They still won't see the need to be worried...


cmsapms

708 posts

275 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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When this goes public properly, I can imagine a lot of emails being fired off to:

fk.off.gordon@You.Incompetent.Lying.Thieving.bd.com

That should look good on the logs.

Plotloss

67,280 posts

301 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Beeston shout

Implications?

Can you run IMAP access over HTTPS?

Should I be concerned about this?

cottonfoo

6,053 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Plotloss said:
Beeston shout

Implications?

Can you run IMAP access over HTTPS?

Should I be concerned about this?
Sure you can, or just tunnel it over SSH.

ETA, won't help you much though, the connection between your MUA and your IMAP server may be secure but the mail will be sent over SMTP, which isn't.


Edited by cottonfoo on Wednesday 13th August 12:31

scorp

8,783 posts

260 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Plotloss said:
Beeston shout

Implications?

Can you run IMAP access over HTTPS?

Should I be concerned about this?
it will work over a http or ssh tunnel. #

So as usual, the terrorists will download a few easy to find programs and encrypt their sensitive emails and the rest of us innocent folk will have our personal emails checked over by the govt. great.

SS HSV

9,646 posts

289 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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I am really starting to think about if its worth having a PC on the internet?

I need to pull the plug on the PC once and for all.

Yugguy

10,728 posts

266 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Heh, and they say this government isn't Socialist.

Always makes me think about C.S Lewis's comments about governments like this, and how when they do it "for our own good" it is in a way far more oppresive than any totalitarian regime.

bob1179

14,140 posts

240 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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The government is seeking more and more control, they want to know our every movement, yet nobody seems to be doing anything about it.

Soon it will be too late.

So...

Hello GCHQ wavey New Labour and Gordon Brown are all s and deserve to be put up against the wall come the revolution.

Why don't you all go and fk yourselves instead of spying on decent, hardworking tax paying British citizens?

smile

Edited by bob1179 on Wednesday 13th August 12:38

cs02rm0

13,966 posts

222 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Easy start - https://gmail.com

I wish PGP was in more widespread use.

james_tigerwoods

16,347 posts

228 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Hell, I'm off back to pen, paper and an etch-a-sketch....

Mars

10,166 posts

245 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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My mail server isn't located in the UK and mail is encrypted already. Seems a fairly easy thing to achieve to bypass this stupidity.

cottonfoo

6,053 posts

241 months

Wednesday 13th August 2008
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Mars said:
My mail server isn't located in the UK and mail is encrypted already. Seems a fairly easy thing to achieve to bypass this stupidity.
Nor is mine, but unless you encrypt every single mail, or don't send to people that use a UK ISP, it'll still affect you.

A cheap co-lo or virtual server abroad is the answer. Tunnel to a squid over ssh to that box, and GPG encrypt all your mail. If they want to know what you're doing no doubt they'll ask for the keys.