Motorbike Dealers

[mitzy]

In everyone's experience are motorbike dealers flexible with prices?

If something was £1000.00 and you offered them £800 would this be something they would consider? If paid for by cash.

This is for used bikes.

Thoughts Please BB

[roboxm3]

If you offer and they say no, what have you lost??

I'm sure it'll be entirely dependant on the mark-up and how much they want the sale but even if they say no to £800 they might agree at £900 and you've still saved £100!!

.....p.s. I am a buyer for a living and will therefore pretty much always see if there's a deal to be had

Edited by roboxm3 on Tuesday 19th August 14:54

[lawrence567]

If yout serious they're more likely to be negotiable, go in with them and sit down and discuss it!

[PulsatingStar]

I was looking at a couple of CBR600RR's and had 4k. The one Id really gone in to see (just in budget) was already sold when I arrived but they had another they had literally just taken in as part ex. Hadnt been preped or priced or anything. Said id pay 4k for it there. They refused saying thats what they paid for it. Couple of days later they have it up for sale at 4.3k.

I cant believe they are only pricing up £300 mark up. Also I cant see that it didnt make sense to sell it to me on the spot for 4k and have no work or effort in prep, advertising etc. Consequently ill never go near the place again, but I guess they dont care either lol.

[Chilli]

I'd guess they'd be more willing to throw in £200 worth of gear out of the shop rather than reduce the cash price.
I wonder if the old salesman would be more inclinded of offer a lady a deal, rather than some greasy old biker bloke?

[mitzy]

Just phoned the shop and manager isnt in today.

He would not reduce the price for a guy by all accounts this morning but, as the other guy put it.
If he hears a nice lady voice like yours , he might change his mind.

Will ring him in the morning, might be more husky then !!!

lol

[roboxm3]

mitzy said:

Just phoned the shop and manager isnt in today.

He would not reduce the price for a guy by all accounts this morning but, as the other guy put it.
If he hears a nice lady voice like yours , he might change his mind.

Will ring him in the morning, might be more husky then !!!

lol

Sod that, pull out the wonderbra (do they still exist??) and a low cut top, you want £300 off at least!!

[trumpet600]

mitzy said:

Just phoned the shop and manager isnt in today.

He would not reduce the price for a guy by all accounts this morning but, as the other guy put it.
If he hears a nice lady voice like yours , he might change his mind.

Will ring him in the morning, might be more husky then !!!

lol

What bike is this?

[Chilli]

08 R1 with Akrapovics, power commander, etc, etc.

[mitzy]

trumpet600 said:

mitzy said:

Just phoned the shop and manager isnt in today.

He would not reduce the price for a guy by all accounts this morning but, as the other guy put it.
If he hears a nice lady voice like yours , he might change his mind.

Will ring him in the morning, might be more husky then !!!

lol

What bike is this?

just emailed you

[mitzy]

Chilli said:

08 R1 with Akrapovics, power commander, etc, etc.

[bimsb6]

PulsatingStar said:

I was looking at a couple of CBR600RR's and had 4k. The one Id really gone in to see (just in budget) was already sold when I arrived but they had another they had literally just taken in as part ex. Hadnt been preped or priced or anything. Said id pay 4k for it there. They refused saying thats what they paid for it. Couple of days later they have it up for sale at 4.3k.

I cant believe they are only pricing up £300 mark up. Also I cant see that it didnt make sense to sell it to me on the spot for 4k and have no work or effort in prep, advertising etc. Consequently ill never go near the place again, but I guess they dont care either lol.

strange attitude chap ,you offered they refused isn't that the way most deals go until you settle on a figure ?

[trumpet600]

Is it such a strange attitude? I wonder if PS will think it so strange when the bike shop goes under for not making a profit because they are crap at maths.

[bimsb6]

trumpet600 said:

Is it such a strange attitude? I wonder if PS will think it so strange when the bike shop goes under for not making a profit because they are crap at maths.

so selling a bike at cost is good maths bearing in mind they will have to warranty it ? wouldn't that be making a loss ?

Edited by bimsb6 on Tuesday 19th August 17:25

[PulsatingStar]

bimsb6 said:

PulsatingStar said:

I was looking at a couple of CBR600RR's and had 4k. The one Id really gone in to see (just in budget) was already sold when I arrived but they had another they had literally just taken in as part ex. Hadnt been preped or priced or anything. Said id pay 4k for it there. They refused saying thats what they paid for it. Couple of days later they have it up for sale at 4.3k.

I cant believe they are only pricing up £300 mark up. Also I cant see that it didnt make sense to sell it to me on the spot for 4k and have no work or effort in prep, advertising etc. Consequently ill never go near the place again, but I guess they dont care either lol.

strange attitude chap ,you offered they refused isn't that the way most deals go until you settle on a figure ?

Maybe. I think its mostly due to the fact it seems like total BS that they paid 4k for it afterwards like the bloke told me, and I cant stand being lied to. Also dont think I got taken seriously at all despite the fact I was going to pay 4k on the spot and had told them already id be buying literally every piece of equipment I needed there if I bought the bike as I had nothing.

[PulsatingStar]

bimsb6 said:

trumpet600 said:

Is it such a strange attitude? I wonder if PS will think it so strange when the bike shop goes under for not making a profit because they are crap at maths.

so selling a bike at cost is good maths bearing in mind they will have to warranty it ? wouldn't that be making a loss ?

Edited by bimsb6 on Tuesday 19th August 17:25

No obviously not if it really is cost. Is £300 before any haggling the average mark up for an official Honda garage on 2nd hand bikes then? Hardly seems worth bothering if it is.

[trumpet600]

bimsb6 said:

trumpet600 said:

Is it such a strange attitude? I wonder if PS will think it so strange when the bike shop goes under for not making a profit because they are crap at maths.

so selling a bike at cost is good maths bearing in mind they will have to warranty it ? wouldn't that be making a loss ?

Edited by bimsb6 on Tuesday 19th August 17:25

Take it for what it is. Do you really think they would pay £4K for a bike, prep it and sell for £4.3K?

So not such a strange attitude

[bimsb6]

PulsatingStar said:

bimsb6 said:

trumpet600 said:

Is it such a strange attitude? I wonder if PS will think it so strange when the bike shop goes under for not making a profit because they are crap at maths.

so selling a bike at cost is good maths bearing in mind they will have to warranty it ? wouldn't that be making a loss ?

Edited by bimsb6 on Tuesday 19th August 17:25

No obviously not if it really is cost. Is £300 before any haggling the average mark up for an official Honda garage on 2nd hand bikes then? Hardly seems worth bothering if it is.

that does seem hardly worth it unless that is the market at the moment ,£300 profit is not a lot for the bike unless you add in all the gear on a finance deal at silly apr .most of the profit on a sale is finance related so a cash deal is not always what a dealer wants .

Edited by bimsb6 on Tuesday 19th August 17:50

[sjtscott]

Flexible to a point there is always discount to be had. I delt with a certain director of a well known Honda dealer recently, lets just say we both held our ground and negociations all but terminated but we still managed to get a deal after 'he' came back to me! ;-)
Oh course I still know he's made money, some just love to give you the sob story a little too much! lol

[Speed addicted]

When I was buying my (brand new) Speed triple I was fairly up-front and told the dealer that I wanted some money off, or something for free. I was pretty blunt and said that I wouldn't pay full price, but if he knocked £300 off or gave me some gear, or even a couple of free services I'd take it.
Final answer, no discount at all.

So I went to the next nearest dealer, which is about 150 miles away and arranged a better deal over the phone, emailng pictures of my bike to sort out the trade in deal. I was honest with him and told him the reason that I wasn't dealing with my local place.
He came back almost £500 lower, and got the sale.

I don't think most places expect you to walk away. The first dealer was certainly surprised when I was in for something else and told him where I'd got the bike parked outside.

Only problem I've got now is where to get it serviced!