Should i buy now ?
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Chipper

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1,540 posts

248 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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I've seen a new build flat with excellent links to the motorway and amenities near by. The 1 bedroom flats were selling for around £125000 last year and the development has now finished leaving two 1 bedroom apartments left, plus quite a few 3 and 4 which are not moving.

I actually went to see them when i popped over to a friend who rents one a few months back and they're still up for sale at a reduced price of £116,995. They were keen to get rid back then and i think they would of taken £100000 if pushed but that was then and they still haven't sold.

I was going to have a bid at £85000 and see if they will bite but whats in the back of my mind is the fact that most people who would buy these places would probably be on no more than £20000 a year. If the market actually does sort itself out over time then surely these one bed apartments would be only worth £60000/£65000 ?

Would i be grabbing myself a bargain or about to throw £20000 onto the fire ?

Edited by Chipper on Tuesday 19th August 14:59

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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No, not yet.

Hoppy2008

2,496 posts

226 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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NOW!

Fittster

20,120 posts

244 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Are you considering buying it as somewhere to live or as an investment?

Scott328i

18,310 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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The housing market will recover.

If you aren't buying a house for a quick investment and actually for a home then just buy it.

You could end up saving yourself a few quid but then you may not. Unfortunatley thats a gamble, and if I knew that I would have won the lottery years ago.


Timmy35

13,014 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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No.

Scott328i

18,310 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Timmy35 said:
No.
Why not then?

walm

10,644 posts

233 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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What are the already sold flats renting out for per month?
That should give you a better idea of a realistic value for the property.

If you think it is all £20k per year renters who put in say 1/3 of their net salary to rent that might be c.£400 per month.
But with a £85k BTL mortgage at say 7% you need c.£500 per month to cover the interest.

Perhaps I am just redoing your maths, but £85k sounds too expensive.

GuildfordPaul

467 posts

237 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Chipper said:
I've seen a new build flat with excellent links to the motorway and amenities near by. The 1 bedroom flats were selling for around £125000 last year and the development has now finished leaving two 1 bedroom apartments left, plus quite a few 3 and 4 which are not moving.

I actually went to see them when i popped over to a friend who rents one a few months back and they're still up for sale at a reduced price of £116,995. They were keen to get rid back then and i think they would of taken £100000 if pushed but that was then and they still haven't sold.

I was going to have a bid at £85000 and see if they will bite but whats in the back of my mind is the fact that most people who would buy these places would probably be on no more than £20000 a year. If the market actually does sort itself out over time then surely these one bed apartments would be only worth £60000/£65000 ?

Would i be grabbing myself a bargain or about to throw £20000 onto the fire ?

Edited by Chipper on Tuesday 19th August 14:59
To be honest whether or not it is a good time could be irrelevant, as I can't see any developer accepting an offer of £85k if they are marketing them at £117K. That's almost 40% off.

Timmy35

13,014 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Scott328i said:
Timmy35 said:
No.
Why not then?
Because we're heading into a recession, not out of one.

Maxf

8,444 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Id be wary if there are a number of vacant flats - all you need for a miserable existence is for the developer to hit troubles and sell the remaining flats to a housing association.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Timmy35 said:
Scott328i said:
Timmy35 said:
No.
Why not then?
Because we're heading into a recession, not out of one.
Where have you been we're already in it?

Scott328i

18,310 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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digimeistter said:
Timmy35 said:
Scott328i said:
Timmy35 said:
No.
Why not then?
Because we're heading into a recession, not out of one.
Where have you been we're already in it?
Exactly

I think the time is credit crunch.

XJSJohn

16,152 posts

250 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Timmy35 said:
Scott328i said:
Timmy35 said:
No.
Why not then?
Because we're heading into a recession, not out of one.
yes

Timmy35

13,014 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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Scott328i said:
digimeistter said:
Timmy35 said:
Scott328i said:
Timmy35 said:
No.
Why not then?
Because we're heading into a recession, not out of one.
Where have you been we're already in it?
Exactly

I think the time is credit crunch.
LOL.....yes right. Of course. That's it recession been and gone, there we are that was quick one wasn't, all over now. Right, you'd better get buying those bargain houses then hadn't you before they double again.

chris_w666

22,655 posts

230 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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I would imagine the last thing you want to buy is a flat. Give it 5 or 6 years and all of these empty 1-2 bedroomed apartments will be replacing inner city slums as the no go areas.

Benefit scroungers are already being housed in 'exclusive luxury' marina view apartments here and property values have no where near as far to potentially fall in the north east as in some parts of the country.

To landlords once they see that they cannot sell at the profit they projected, income is income, and state income is safer than private.

Chilli

17,320 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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digimeistter said:
Timmy35 said:
Scott328i said:
Timmy35 said:
No.
Why not then?
Because we're heading into a recession, not out of one.
Where have you been we're already in it?
No were not.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

256 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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GuildfordPaul] said:
To be honest whether or not it is a good time could be irrelevant, as I can't see any developer accepting an offer of £85k if they are marketing them at £117K. That's almost 40% off.
It dosent matter. If they are recovering their build cost+ a bit; in the current environment they will be happy.

Chilli

17,320 posts

267 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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plasticpig said:
GuildfordPaul] said:
To be honest whether or not it is a good time could be irrelevant, as I can't see any developer accepting an offer of £85k if they are marketing them at £117K. That's almost 40% off.
It dosent matter. If they are recovering their build cost+ a bit; in the current environment they will be happy.
One of thee major guys have recently said that reservations were down somethnig like 45%, and fallign. Another major player is due to release figures this week....it's not over by a long way.

Timmy35

13,014 posts

229 months

Tuesday 19th August 2008
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plasticpig said:
GuildfordPaul] said:
To be honest whether or not it is a good time could be irrelevant, as I can't see any developer accepting an offer of £85k if they are marketing them at £117K. That's almost 40% off.
It dosent matter. If they are recovering their build cost+ a bit; in the current environment they will be happy.
A mate of mine has just bought a 2 bed flat in Brighton for £180.......asking price was £240. So I wouldn't be so sure. There aren't exactly many buyers about and this is just the start.