Elderly Chinese to Labour Camp-Olympic Related
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This is pretty sad. "Re-Education through Labour" for women in their 70s. However, it is at least hopeful that there are Chinese lawyers and activists speaking out on their behalf, as well as the son of one of the sentenced:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/sports/olympics/...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/sports/olympics/...
Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 21st August 03:42
king barbarians
This centers around people having their homes removed to make room for the olympics with little or no compensation. This has been boiling for awhile....seems to be coming to a head.Not related to your point Jimbo (sorry), I did PMSL at Bush's speech in China about how outrageous the Chinese were for arresting people and detaining them without charge.
That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 21st August 12:06
rhinochopig said:
Not related to your point Jimbo (sorry), I did PMSL at Bush's speech in China about how outrageous the Chinese were for arresting people and detaining them without charge.
That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
How many Iraqi's and Afghanistani's do you think have lost their homes/lives over the last few years?That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 21st August 12:06
Bing o said:
rhinochopig said:
Not related to your point Jimbo (sorry), I did PMSL at Bush's speech in China about how outrageous the Chinese were for arresting people and detaining them without charge.
That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
How many Iraqi's and Afghanistani's do you think have lost their homes/lives over the last few years?That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 21st August 12:06
Thought not. Now grow up, for heaven's sake.
rhinochopig said:
Not related to your point Jimbo (sorry), I did PMSL at Bush's speech in China about how outrageous the Chinese were for arresting people and detaining them without charge.
That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
Good points. However, your arrest comment does not aply to our own citizens as the Chinese do.That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 21st August 12:06
BTW, the "Native Americans", several of which are friends of mine, prefer to be called "Indians"....much to the horror of the PC warriors.
Bing o said:
rhinochopig said:
Not related to your point Jimbo (sorry), I did PMSL at Bush's speech in China about how outrageous the Chinese were for arresting people and detaining them without charge.
That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
How many Iraqi's and Afghanistani's do you think have lost their homes/lives over the last few years?That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 21st August 12:06
ETA: Sorry, Nick F. beat me to the correction....with a higher degree of eloquence at that.
Edited by Jimbeaux on Thursday 21st August 12:33
Jimbeaux said:
Why be so predictable? The thread was about China, not the US, Russia, Israel, the UK, Iraq, etc. Why is it that certain people jump to comparing/bashing non-subject nations without even making a comment on the "thread nation"?
People in glass houses and all that, I suppose.scorp said:
Jimbeaux said:
Why be so predictable? The thread was about China, not the US, Russia, Israel, the UK, Iraq, etc. Why is it that certain people jump to comparing/bashing non-subject nations without even making a comment on the "thread nation"?
People in glass houses and all that, I suppose.
Nick_F said:
Bing o said:
rhinochopig said:
Not related to your point Jimbo (sorry), I did PMSL at Bush's speech in China about how outrageous the Chinese were for arresting people and detaining them without charge.
That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
How many Iraqi's and Afghanistani's do you think have lost their homes/lives over the last few years?That man really is an idiot.
In relation to your point, yes it's an outrage, but every country has been guilty of this at some point. We've done globally, you chaps did it with the Indians (sorry "Native Americans"). ETA but that doesn't make it right.
Edited by rhinochopig on Thursday 21st August 12:06
Thought not. Now grow up, for heaven's sake.
I'm not the one that needs to grow up.
Jimbeaux said:
If we are going to be that wide-ranging, we should all hide under our beds.
Maybe acknowledge a few of you own countries atrocities to show a few posters you are posting with impartiality. Otherwise to those spoiling for a fight it comes across as "my country is better than yours", especially considering we are talking about one of your countries' main rivals.Edited by scorp on Thursday 21st August 12:43
rhinochopig said:
I'm fully aware of China's Human rights record. I also have no issues with Americans. What I do object to is that self serving idiot lecturing people on Human rights when his incessant sabre rattling is one of the reasons why we're now embroiled in two wars (sorry police actions) that we haven't a cat in hells chance of resolving. Both of which have seen gross breaches of Human Rights.
I'm not the one that needs to grow up.
The American to whom I was referring was our own Jimbeaux, not George W Bush.I'm not the one that needs to grow up.
scorp said:
Jimbeaux said:
If we are going to be that wide-ranging, we should all hide under our beds.
Maybe acknowledge a few of you own countries atrocities to show a few posters you are posting with impartiality. Otherwise to those spoiling for a fight it comes across as "my country is better than yours", especially considering we are talking about one of your countries' main rivals.Edited by scorp on Thursday 21st August 12:43
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