Quantum mechanics - can someone explain it?
Quantum mechanics - can someone explain it?
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srebbe64

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13,021 posts

266 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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In one or two sentences?

Been reading 'A Briefer History of Time' and I get 'relativity' and a few other things, but the book suddenly went into quantum mechanics and seemed to bypass the 'Janet & John' explanation!

dilbert

7,741 posts

260 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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A lump of steel seems stiff. We all know that you can stretch it, and bend it, but we all still think of a lump of steel as being stiff.

When you get down to an atomic level, a steel atom (obviously there is no such thing, but it's convenient for brevity) seems really floppy, like a slinky spring.

The thing is that a whole lump of steel is made up of billions of steel atoms, and the size of the object, compared with the size of the atomic bond that makes the steel hold together, is vast. At the atomic scale the size of the bond is vast compared with the size of the matter in the steel atom.

The fact of the matter (and my specific point) is that you can still influence the bonds in the lump of steel, by bending it, but the properties seem very different because the scale of observation has changed so much. Irrespective, the scientific properties are the same for both the whole lump of steel and the steel atom.

The difference is purely the human perception of reality.

Looking at it from the other way, i.e. to say what do the smallest things look like when they're all added together, rather than split up to their smallest parts, you quickly realise that most things we see and touch are mainly made of nothing.

The only reason they seem tangible is that they reflect the light, and they interfere with the atoms in our bodies.

Edited by dilbert on Friday 22 August 03:32

Tonto

2,983 posts

277 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Wiki says;

In physics, a quantum (plural: quanta) is an indivisible entity of a quantity that has the same units as the Planck constant and is related to both energy and momentum of elementary particles of matter (called fermions) and of photons and other bosons.

Simple, init.

Edited by Tonto on Friday 22 August 03:39

Sir Jonny

630 posts

239 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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srebbe64 said:
In one or two sentences?

Been reading 'A Briefer History of Time' and I get 'relativity' and a few other things, but the book suddenly went into quantum mechanics and seemed to bypass the 'Janet & John' explanation!
In one.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

227 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Iiiiiiiiiin two: A cuddly Bully

turbobloke

117,180 posts

289 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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If you stand a long way away from a picket fence it can look like a continuous barrier, and in many ways behave like one, but when you look very closely there are individual bits with gaps between them - same goes for matter and energy.

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Quantum Mechanics = Tiny Spanners

anhamgrimmar

1,025 posts

260 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Stuff gets weird when you look at it REALLY closely

Liszt

4,337 posts

299 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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I heard Stephen Hawking has just written another book. It's about time.




I'll get me coat

Rod Rammage

2,557 posts

229 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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CommanderJameson said:
Quantum Mechanics = Tiny Spanners
Doesn't it mean fixing your car four times?

mat205125

17,790 posts

242 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Rod Rammage said:
CommanderJameson said:
Quantum Mechanics = Tiny Spanners
Doesn't it mean fixing your car four times?
That's Quattro Mechanics.

VladTheDad

1,086 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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If a cat in a box falls over in a forest you won't hear it unless you're actually in the box and see it with your eyes but you can ony see it if you don't touch it because if you intefere with a cat you cant observe the result.

Hope that helps.

Mr E

23,057 posts

288 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Even the people who should know, aren't sure...


* For those who are not shocked when they first come across quantum theory cannot possibly have understood it.
o Niels Bohr, quoted in Heisenberg, Werner (1971). Physics and Beyond, 206, New York: Harper and Row.



* I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics.
o Richard Feynman, in The Character of Physical Law (1965)


anhamgrimmar said:
Stuff gets weird when you look at it REALLY closely
In a nutshell.

mechsympathy

58,658 posts

284 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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VladTheDad said:
because if you intefere with a cat you cant observe the result.
Well that's rubbish for starters. I've got scratches all over my bks.





getmecoat

CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Rod Rammage said:
CommanderJameson said:
Quantum Mechanics = Tiny Spanners
Doesn't it mean fixing your car four times?
Probably. [/unfeasibly obscure joke]

turbobloke

117,180 posts

289 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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It's sometimes pointless trying to visualise quantum concepts as there's no everyday equivalent to draw on, such as when a QM system gets into a non-classical state where complex (imaginary) numbers are needed to describe things mathematically. Not being able to visualise or conceptualise it isn't quite the same thing as not understanding it, as behaviour may still be described, predicted, and tested.

DrTre

12,957 posts

261 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Think of it like Fraggle Rock.

From Sprockets POV the subterranean world is populated by Fraggles such as Gobo and Red and Boober. These are analagous to matter, light and Newtonian physics from our POV.

However on a much, much smaller scale the work and fabric of Fraggle Rock is actually held together and propagated by Doozers much in the same way as in our world quantumy bit is made up of veeery small things like bosons, gluons and neutrinos and stuff.

Schmeeky

4,299 posts

246 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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mechsympathy said:
VladTheDad said:
because if you intefere with a cat you cant observe the result.
Well that's rubbish for starters. I've got scratches all over my bks.





getmecoat
rofl

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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mechsympathy said:
VladTheDad said:
because if you intefere with a cat you cant observe the result.
Well that's rubbish for starters. I've got scratches all over my bks.





getmecoat
rofl

Dave

Mr Whippy

32,453 posts

270 months

Friday 22nd August 2008
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Think of it like atoms are really big, but you only actually see the tiny winy bits in the middle.

I'm not sure how it's a hard concept to grasp, that is the reality of the matter (dum tish) so just accept it.


What is harder to grasp is the wave particle duality... how/why/what?

Dave