Fascist schooling is unhealthy . . its an irony post.
Fascist schooling is unhealthy . . its an irony post.
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mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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My daughter is Nine years old , NINE! and yesterday she was telling me how she was going to eat healthy this and healthy that. She was making a real deal over it. Usually I just go yes sweet but it seemed something was bothering her.
I then spoke to her and to my horror she said she was a bit fat hence her healthy food chat.

My daughter is far from fat and is looks very healthy indeed.

Now I have never promoted overly healthy eating but it has allways been a case of everything in moderation. She never pigs out , she is only allowed three things from the sweetshop once a week (Friday night treat). We only do Maccy D's about twice a month and her normal food is a meat and two veg cooked every evening alternating with pasta and sauce or a chicken salad.

However the school she goes to are always banging on about healthy eating and even check lunchboxes and remove biscuits etc.

I have just become worried that this over zealous propaganda may save the country from obesity (It won't because the parents of obese kids will still overfeed their kids)

However it is in real danger of breeding a nation of Buleimics and anorexics instead a problem equally as bad as obesity.

I am currently pondering writing a letter to my local education authority on the basis that I will sue them if my daughter becomes anorexic or buleimic.

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Checking lunchboxes????

fking wrs... I am SO glad I left the school system 12 years ago. Sounds like its run by the nazis these days.

cromptonenator

708 posts

251 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Can you please confirm in all seriousness whether they really do check lunchboxes or that was a joke?

Well, as Lenin said, give me one generation, and I'll change the world. Get 'em while they're young.
In my day, no-one cared what was in your lunch box, getting a meal in your tum was more important.

voyds9

8,490 posts

314 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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I would also suggest that the removal of items from a lunchbox is theft.

mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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cromptonenator said:
Can you please confirm in all seriousness whether they really do check lunchboxes or that was a joke?

Well, as Lenin said, give me one generation, and I'll change the world. Get 'em while they're young.
In my day, no-one cared what was in your lunch box, getting a meal in your tum was more important.
Yes the kids who bring in lunchboxes have them checked. Items not deemed suitable are removed.This can include such heinous items as a 'ginger biscuit'



Edited by mark69sheer on Monday 25th August 09:26

chris watton

22,547 posts

291 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Lunchboxes will be chipped next! hehe

(Edited because I'm still not used to an Italian keyboard!)

Edited by chris watton on Monday 25th August 09:29

TheCarpetCleaner

7,294 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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So let me get this straight...

The schools are "unable" to do anything about serious bullying, or touch pupils that are fighting without fear of prosecution, or do much about pupils carrying weapons

But woe betide anyone who dares to bring in a piece of cake or a ginger biscuit - that's far more important...

It is symbolic of society today - why go after serious criminals when you get go after the middle class speeding motorist? Why go after the drug dealer when the chap flicking a cigeratte out the window will help achieve target quicker, and will be easier to prosecute?

We really have become fking lazy in this country - and now this is what the younger generation will perceive as normal because of these fktards in charge.

wrinx

680 posts

271 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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Errr...wtf??? Where are the "rules" which state these items are not allowed in school? Has a letter been sent home to this effect?

It's an appalling practice imho, they have no right to search the lunchbox in the first place and as previous posters have already commented...it's theft!!!

I can understand promoting healthy eating to a degree...but not like this.

wrinx

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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mark69sheer said:
cromptonenator said:
Can you please confirm in all seriousness whether they really do check lunchboxes or that was a joke?

Well, as Lenin said, give me one generation, and I'll change the world. Get 'em while they're young.
In my day, no-one cared what was in your lunch box, getting a meal in your tum was more important.
Yes the kids who bring in lunchboxes have them checked. Items not deemed suitable are removed.This can include such heinous items as a 'ginger biscuit'



Edited by mark69sheer on Monday 25th August 09:26
Actually seeing some of the kids coming out of school these days thats a fantastic idea! Some of them are on the larger side...clearly not good!

I know this doesn't apply to most kids, but my god stopping some of the kids eat full stop would be a start.

mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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It really worries me as she doesn't get that insecurity from us at home. She was very sad and almost cried when she told me she was fat. I was horrified .
I have asked her in the past what she has had for dinner and when she has told me she has had some lettuce and a bit of cucumber and a bit of something else I worry as a growing kid she is malnourished so I make sure she gets a healthy meal at tea time. Healthy being a chicken breast in sauce of a pork fillet griled with broccoli or grean beans , carrot and mashed boiled or roast potatoes.

I am worried and have explained that as omnivores we need a balanced diet of EVERYTHING from meat , fish , salads and vegatables etc. I explained that if she wanted to live on lettuce leaves she would have problems with her joints,her eyesight,she would become malnourished,get rickets from vitamin deficiencies etc etc.

Sodding fascists

Si 330

1,306 posts

240 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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It's 20+years since I left school but I can always remember this big fat girl in the yaer below. She was on a special diet to try help her out which was great until she passed the cake shop on her way home from school straight in every night cream cakes.

My son's pre school has a guide line on what you can and can't put in there lunch box's.
They do remove things that don't comply.

mark69sheer

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3,906 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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elster said:
mark69sheer said:
cromptonenator said:
Can you please confirm in all seriousness whether they really do check lunchboxes or that was a joke?

Well, as Lenin said, give me one generation, and I'll change the world. Get 'em while they're young.
In my day, no-one cared what was in your lunch box, getting a meal in your tum was more important.
Yes the kids who bring in lunchboxes have them checked. Items not deemed suitable are removed.This can include such heinous items as a 'ginger biscuit'



Edited by mark69sheer on Monday 25th August 09:26
Actually seeing some of the kids coming out of school these days thats a fantastic idea! Some of them are on the larger side...clearly not good!

I know this doesn't apply to most kids, but my god stopping some of the kids eat full stop would be a start.
I was horrified to see kids going to school and getting pizza and chips for lunch. It was right that menus should be looked at. But hey change the menu and leave it at that. The healthy eating propaganda may be suitable for some kids so seperate them and lecture them to one side but giving the same healthy eating lecture to normally healthy kids without a weight problem is going to spawn anorexia , buliemia and body dismorphic syndrome.

Its criminal

Edited by mark69sheer on Monday 25th August 09:46

Jasandjules

72,673 posts

260 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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voyds9 said:
I would also suggest that the removal of items from a lunchbox is theft.
Agreed. These are not dangerous items such as catapults or similar which could legitimately be taken (though to prevent theft ought to be returned at the end of school).

I'd be getting plod involved RIGHT NOW. I bet the teacher's meetings suddenly have a whole load of new biscuits.

I'd also be down the school having a meeting with the head.

Edited by Jasandjules on Monday 25th August 09:53

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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mark69sheer said:

I was horrified to see kids going to school and getting pizza and chips for lunch. It was right that manus should be looked at. But hey change the menu and leave it at that. The healthy eating propaganda may be suitable for some kids so seperate them and lecture them to one side but giving the same healthy eating lecture to normally healthy kids without a weight problem is going to spawn anorexia , buliemia and body dismorphic syndrome.

Its criminal
I think giving the same health advice to all the kids is good. As if all the kids are on a similar diet IE not burger and chips every day and getting plenty of exercise. Then they will not have the fat kids.

Was it actual adults telling her she was overweight or girls or boys at the school?

escargot

17,123 posts

248 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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mark69sheer said:
and even check lunchboxes and remove biscuits etc.
That is an absolute joke.

Edited by escargot on Monday 25th August 09:52

TWSTEEL

1,099 posts

220 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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When my grandson first started school in Dunoon, about five years ago, his Mum used to include one of those tiny match box sized boxes of Sun-Maid Raisins. She naturally asumed that fruit, even if dried, would be a nice item for his lunch box. These were removed and sent home as the school nurse decided they contained too much sugar.

mark69sheer

Original Poster:

3,906 posts

233 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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elster said:
mark69sheer said:

I was horrified to see kids going to school and getting pizza and chips for lunch. It was right that manus should be looked at. But hey change the menu and leave it at that. The healthy eating propaganda may be suitable for some kids so seperate them and lecture them to one side but giving the same healthy eating lecture to normally healthy kids without a weight problem is going to spawn anorexia , buliemia and body dismorphic syndrome.

Its criminal
I think giving the same health advice to all the kids is good. As if all the kids are on a similar diet IE not burger and chips every day and getting plenty of exercise. Then they will not have the fat kids.

Was it actual adults telling her she was overweight or girls or boys at the school?
Thanks for reminding me to point out the schools hypocrisy , they don't do sports afternoons like we used to and their sports day consists of throwing balls at targets and dribbling a hockey ball around cones at 2mph. Health and safety means running races are outlawed.

and no I whole heartedly disagree with blanket propaganda on this issue. There are so many media and advertising campaigns that are pressurising girls that the schools hamfisted attempt is bordering on reckless negligence.

davido140

9,617 posts

257 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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mark69sheer said:
cromptonenator said:
Can you please confirm in all seriousness whether they really do check lunchboxes or that was a joke?

Well, as Lenin said, give me one generation, and I'll change the world. Get 'em while they're young.
In my day, no-one cared what was in your lunch box, getting a meal in your tum was more important.
Yes the kids who bring in lunchboxes have them checked. Items not deemed suitable are removed.This can include such heinous items as a 'ginger biscuit'



Edited by mark69sheer on Monday 25th August 09:26
+1, confirmed and verified! smile my son gets his lunchbox checked, this is in Hampshire by the way.

I'm pretty sure its standard procedure in all LEAs now.

elster

17,517 posts

241 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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mark69sheer said:
Thanks for reminding me to point out the schools hypocrisy , they don't do sports afternoons like we used to and their sports day consists of throwing balls at targets and dribbling a hockey ball around cones at 2mph. Health and safety means running races are outlawed.

and no I whole heartedly disagree with blanket propaganda on this issue. There are so many media and advertising campaigns that are pressurising girls that the schools hamfisted attempt is bordering on reckless negligence.
They don't do sports afternoons?!!! No wonder the nation is getting fatter if they aren't doing sports. Everyone used to LOVE going out and playing sports at school. Good for learning too.

Who are running schools these days?!!

Quite shocked by this, I knew they had started to have the pathetic attempt of sports days. But cutting out the sports is ridiculous.

Bing o

15,184 posts

250 months

Monday 25th August 2008
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mark69sheer said:
Thanks for reminding me to point out the schools hypocrisy , they don't do sports afternoons like we used to and their sports day consists of throwing balls at targets and dribbling a hockey ball around cones at 2mph. Health and safety means running races are outlawed.

and no I whole heartedly disagree with blanket propaganda on this issue. There are so many media and advertising campaigns that are pressurising girls that the schools hamfisted attempt is bordering on reckless negligence.
Mark, I was about to ask how much exercise they do at your daughter's school?

I used to eat crap at that age (chips with everything, chocolate etc) but every lunch tiome we played football, as well as having swimming lessons etc. and I was if anything on the skinny side.

Kids need to take in a lot of calories to grow and develop, but they also need lots of exercise and IMHO healthy competition - I can think of a few kids who could use a lesson in losing occasionally.