Two bike engines blocks , one engine
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I found a french that builds engines from 2 yamahas blocks. The Yamaha have the EXUP system and after this radical mod this system is able as well.
He already made a engine to Schlesser Buggy's, a two-litre engine with 250 Bhp.
Do you know anything more about this gentleman???
>>> Edited by caribeiro on Monday 28th January 18:01
He already made a engine to Schlesser Buggy's, a two-litre engine with 250 Bhp.
Do you know anything more about this gentleman???
>>> Edited by caribeiro on Monday 28th January 18:01
Don't know anything about that particular individual, but there's an Aussie called Ian Dysdale who's built a V8 using sleeved down Yamaha FZR400 heads and custom cast crankcases, making it 750cc. I don't know the power output of the engine, but it sounds amazing. Do a search for his website, you can download a clip.
I'd love to do somehing similar using maybe R1 heads making a 2 litre V8. Imagine that in a seven replica!
I'd love to do somehing similar using maybe R1 heads making a 2 litre V8. Imagine that in a seven replica!
The Ian Drysdale's V8 is just fantastic, and it sound is just from a different dimension.
The only problem I see in this particular engine is that is a very revy one.
If you fit this engine in a lotus seven replica, the car will be only for circuit drive not for more relaxing drive in secondary roads...
The jimenez engine, the name of french gentleman that made similar engines, is more friendly of use ( it´s my opinion).
First is a 2 litre engine capacity or more, because he have different configurations, from 180º V8 to a W configuration with 3 yamaha blocks.
Second, his engines are made to cars not to fit on bikes, and for that reason he reduce the management of engine to work between 2000-3000 till 10000-11000 rpm. This feature is more adequate for a car.
The problem is that I can't find more information about this gentleman.
About yhe V8 made by Drysdale is just fantastic and perfect for bikes and circuit racecars.
>> Edited by caribeiro on Tuesday 29th January 13:07
>> Edited by caribeiro on Tuesday 29th January 13:07
The only problem I see in this particular engine is that is a very revy one.
If you fit this engine in a lotus seven replica, the car will be only for circuit drive not for more relaxing drive in secondary roads...
The jimenez engine, the name of french gentleman that made similar engines, is more friendly of use ( it´s my opinion).
First is a 2 litre engine capacity or more, because he have different configurations, from 180º V8 to a W configuration with 3 yamaha blocks.
Second, his engines are made to cars not to fit on bikes, and for that reason he reduce the management of engine to work between 2000-3000 till 10000-11000 rpm. This feature is more adequate for a car.
The problem is that I can't find more information about this gentleman.
About yhe V8 made by Drysdale is just fantastic and perfect for bikes and circuit racecars.
>> Edited by caribeiro on Tuesday 29th January 13:07
>> Edited by caribeiro on Tuesday 29th January 13:07
Jimenez Novia
A W16 with 4 blocks of yamaha, I think!!!
Here I leave some web pages with more details...
www.mistralbureau.fr/novia.html
www.mcarsweb.com/jimenez/novia.htm
http://leroux.andre.free.fr/rep318.htm
Not a beautiful car but a engine to consider,
>> Edited by caribeiro on Wednesday 30th January 10:41
A W16 with 4 blocks of yamaha, I think!!!
Here I leave some web pages with more details...
www.mistralbureau.fr/novia.html
www.mcarsweb.com/jimenez/novia.htm
http://leroux.andre.free.fr/rep318.htm
Not a beautiful car but a engine to consider,
>> Edited by caribeiro on Wednesday 30th January 10:41
Euch, bloody hideous monstrosity but I would like to see some specs/photos of the engine....
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Caribeiro,
Thanks for posting those links. The line about the seven replica was just a throw-away remark, obviously it wouldn't be suited to road use, though it would be interesting seeing the reactions when you rev it at the lights!
If you find any technical information about the engines, post it here.
Thanks
Tom
Thanks for posting those links. The line about the seven replica was just a throw-away remark, obviously it wouldn't be suited to road use, though it would be interesting seeing the reactions when you rev it at the lights!
If you find any technical information about the engines, post it here.
Thanks
Tom
Ok, after a while I agree, even more when I was in contact with Ian Drysdale and he told me the price of that fantastic engine.
The question isn’t not that but using all that beautiful engineered engines make an even more refined engine.
For example, the most refined and smooth engines are the 6 in line, 6 boxer and the V12. Imagine that you want power, lightweight, a very high ratio weight power, high revy engine but with 1l to 2l capacity all in one to fit in your Kit Car.
With 2 Triumph engines we build a boxer 6 with +- 1600cc very light, revy and smooth and powerful as well. Can be costly but I assure that engine is something, and is Britain made.
>> Edited by caribeiro on Saturday 8th June 01:13
The question isn’t not that but using all that beautiful engineered engines make an even more refined engine.
For example, the most refined and smooth engines are the 6 in line, 6 boxer and the V12. Imagine that you want power, lightweight, a very high ratio weight power, high revy engine but with 1l to 2l capacity all in one to fit in your Kit Car.
With 2 Triumph engines we build a boxer 6 with +- 1600cc very light, revy and smooth and powerful as well. Can be costly but I assure that engine is something, and is Britain made.
>> Edited by caribeiro on Saturday 8th June 01:13
Does anyone remember the Lightning? Someone (no idea who, but he was English, of course) was building a very light car--a single seat, mid-engined formula type car, but possibly with fenders, such as the Brooke since I think it was to be street legal.
The interesting thing is that it used a 2 liter V8 engine made from two Kawasaki (I think) engine blocks and a common crank and crankcase. I read about it in an English car magazine some 3-5 years ago. I remember the article saying that they dynoed the engine, and it put out 305 hp at the crank at 11,000 RPM or so, but that the dyno couldn't take more RPM and that the power was still climbing.
I never heard anything about it before or since. I always thought it was a shame that it was never made AFAIK.
The interesting thing is that it used a 2 liter V8 engine made from two Kawasaki (I think) engine blocks and a common crank and crankcase. I read about it in an English car magazine some 3-5 years ago. I remember the article saying that they dynoed the engine, and it put out 305 hp at the crank at 11,000 RPM or so, but that the dyno couldn't take more RPM and that the power was still climbing.
I never heard anything about it before or since. I always thought it was a shame that it was never made AFAIK.
I forgot to mention that I have seen pictures of Jimenez's 16 cylinder engine. It is essentially two V8's on a common crankcase. It looks like a flat engine with the banks of cylinders pretty far apart, but with another two banks of cylinders in a V on top. Each horizontal bank of cylinders and its adjacent bank of cylinders has a common crank.
What I've never seen is his V8, but it must be half of the engine above. I wonder what car he put that in...
What I've never seen is his V8, but it must be half of the engine above. I wonder what car he put that in...
Miguel,
The Lightning project is dead. I know this because we (Coram) enquired about using the engine from it (the one you describe) in our car.
Some of these engines are still in existence, but they're development units only. We were offered one, but it would have cost over £14,000 plus an awful lot more to develop it for road use.
In saying that, you may yet see a bike engine-V8 powered Coram in the future...
Steve
www.coram-automotive.com
The Lightning project is dead. I know this because we (Coram) enquired about using the engine from it (the one you describe) in our car.
Some of these engines are still in existence, but they're development units only. We were offered one, but it would have cost over £14,000 plus an awful lot more to develop it for road use.
In saying that, you may yet see a bike engine-V8 powered Coram in the future...
Steve
www.coram-automotive.com
Steve,
Thanks for that info. I'm not surprised that the Lightning is dead, since I read about it once years ago, then nothing ever again. I don't blame you for turning the engine down at that price. I've checked out your website before and think it's great. I wish you the best of luck and great success with your project. And a V8 version would be really nice...
Thanks for that info. I'm not surprised that the Lightning is dead, since I read about it once years ago, then nothing ever again. I don't blame you for turning the engine down at that price. I've checked out your website before and think it's great. I wish you the best of luck and great success with your project. And a V8 version would be really nice...
The Lighting was going to be the follow up to by The Light Car Company to the Rocket.
Add “goes like …” before the name and you’ll begin to understand their thinking.
I think they had a rolling space frame chassis ready before the move to Stanford in the Vale from Cambridgeshire. I seem to remember that an article in Car Magazine showed an aluminium body like a Lotus 23’s.
Apparently the story goes that Chris Craft met Gordon Murray with the Yamaha V8 in the boot of his car in a cardboard box. When they discovered how light it was they decided to build a car around it.
The LCC still have the beautiful space-frame chassis and some of the development engines.
An insider told me that the project was halted because the Rocket volumes never picked-up which lead to supplier issues.
Also I think at the time there was no really suitable gearbox to show the engine in it’s best light.
It’s sad it never came to fruition because like the Rocket it could have been an automotive landmark and well before it’s time.
Cheers.
Add “goes like …” before the name and you’ll begin to understand their thinking.
I think they had a rolling space frame chassis ready before the move to Stanford in the Vale from Cambridgeshire. I seem to remember that an article in Car Magazine showed an aluminium body like a Lotus 23’s.
Apparently the story goes that Chris Craft met Gordon Murray with the Yamaha V8 in the boot of his car in a cardboard box. When they discovered how light it was they decided to build a car around it.
The LCC still have the beautiful space-frame chassis and some of the development engines.
An insider told me that the project was halted because the Rocket volumes never picked-up which lead to supplier issues.
Also I think at the time there was no really suitable gearbox to show the engine in it’s best light.
It’s sad it never came to fruition because like the Rocket it could have been an automotive landmark and well before it’s time.
Cheers.
Isn't there a UK company doing these? I saw them at a few shows last year, begining of this. Not sure which engines they used, but they had a custom bottom end, and two 4-cyl bike engine. 2 litre V8, rev'ed to 12k IIRC, at which time it produced about 270PS, but they were doing some work with better internals, cooling and a supercharger to go for the 400PS mark.
Think the unit had next to no mass too, and was very wee for a V8.
Think the company name began with a Q, or a K. I'll have a look in the loft tonight, I'm sure I picked up a flyer.
Think the unit had next to no mass too, and was very wee for a V8.
Think the company name began with a Q, or a K. I'll have a look in the loft tonight, I'm sure I picked up a flyer.
jitsukadave said:
Think the company name began with a Q, or a K. I'll have a look in the loft tonight, I'm sure I picked up a flyer.
That sounds like the Quantum Cyclone Xtreme
Also RST have fitted their bike-based V8 into the Caterham Seven.
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