Skyline GTST vs S14A
Discussion
Due to a unexpected turn of events this weekend, by budget for buying a possible replacement for my Astra everyday car has been slashed quite badly and unless I plump for a very ropey S2k (which I probably couldn't afford), the S2K is out.
So I was thinking of Skyline GTST or S14A. A friend runs a lightly modded S14A, as an everyday car with 95k on the clock, and says he is retuning pretty much the same economy as my Astra Estate. Which is probably true as it is a heavy car and you have to boot it to get up a hill.
I am looking at reliability, practicality, fun and economy. I will possibly be using it everyday to go to the station and back as well as the occasional long hauls up/down/across the country. It will be stored outside.
Cheers
So I was thinking of Skyline GTST or S14A. A friend runs a lightly modded S14A, as an everyday car with 95k on the clock, and says he is retuning pretty much the same economy as my Astra Estate. Which is probably true as it is a heavy car and you have to boot it to get up a hill.
I am looking at reliability, practicality, fun and economy. I will possibly be using it everyday to go to the station and back as well as the occasional long hauls up/down/across the country. It will be stored outside.
Cheers
if an S2k is practical for you, there is no reason you couldn't add an MR2 Turbo to that list...the boot is surprisingly large for a sports with the engine in the middle!
I would drive an S14a...they are quite quick, but didnt feel hugely special to me. If you are feeling a bit braver, an RX-7 would give you the closest experience to the S2k in terms of involvement. Just buy the best one you can, and buy one that has had a rebuild (alternatively buy one from a rotary specialist e.g. re-worx, dragon etc.)
I would drive an S14a...they are quite quick, but didnt feel hugely special to me. If you are feeling a bit braver, an RX-7 would give you the closest experience to the S2k in terms of involvement. Just buy the best one you can, and buy one that has had a rebuild (alternatively buy one from a rotary specialist e.g. re-worx, dragon etc.)
id go with the mr2 turbo, but im very biast!!
very very reliable, the only real problems with them are the front end goes a bit light at high speeds, can be a bit hairy in the wet especially with standard 15's!! if ur realitively sensible this is'nt a problem, servicing is the main issue, the engine has to come out to do the cambelt, clutch etc etc... on the plus side all parts are readily available at good prices, fuel economy suprised me a lot its about the same as my old ek9 type r civic, but if you tear around on boost all day then it does like a bit of a drink!!
my second choice would definatly be the silvia, fairly quick, as realible as the mr2 and the fuel economy is'nt too bad either,
now for the skyline! it weights about the same as the moon, has a big 2.5 v6 24v and will cost a hell of a lot more than the other 2 on fuel, still very very realible and highly tuneable though.
im just gonna ad another car to the debate!! dc2 integra type r(jap import model) everybody has to have a vtec at some point! even more realible and economical than all the above and so so so much available for them, really really beautiful cars.
very very reliable, the only real problems with them are the front end goes a bit light at high speeds, can be a bit hairy in the wet especially with standard 15's!! if ur realitively sensible this is'nt a problem, servicing is the main issue, the engine has to come out to do the cambelt, clutch etc etc... on the plus side all parts are readily available at good prices, fuel economy suprised me a lot its about the same as my old ek9 type r civic, but if you tear around on boost all day then it does like a bit of a drink!!
my second choice would definatly be the silvia, fairly quick, as realible as the mr2 and the fuel economy is'nt too bad either,
now for the skyline! it weights about the same as the moon, has a big 2.5 v6 24v and will cost a hell of a lot more than the other 2 on fuel, still very very realible and highly tuneable though.
im just gonna ad another car to the debate!! dc2 integra type r(jap import model) everybody has to have a vtec at some point! even more realible and economical than all the above and so so so much available for them, really really beautiful cars.
Thanks for the reply.
Strangely enough I was thinking of an ITR DC2. I do like the DC5 but it's way too much.
I'm not really looking to tune. More something that will be good straight out of the box and if I do want to fiddle, it will be more tweak than tune.
It does look like it's going to be a play off against the S14/S14A and the DC2, and I think the DC2 has the edge just on fuel etc and generally being a bit more nimble. My mate runs a lightly tuned S14a and it is a big car.
I'm not looking for outright speed as hopefully I'll have a TVR for that. Just good everyday fun.
I take it the DC isn't as fast as any of the others?
With the MR2, what are the NA's like?
"It weighs the same as the moon"
Strangely enough I was thinking of an ITR DC2. I do like the DC5 but it's way too much.
I'm not really looking to tune. More something that will be good straight out of the box and if I do want to fiddle, it will be more tweak than tune.
It does look like it's going to be a play off against the S14/S14A and the DC2, and I think the DC2 has the edge just on fuel etc and generally being a bit more nimble. My mate runs a lightly tuned S14a and it is a big car.
I'm not looking for outright speed as hopefully I'll have a TVR for that. Just good everyday fun.
I take it the DC isn't as fast as any of the others?
With the MR2, what are the NA's like?
"It weighs the same as the moon"
N/As are still a mid engined sports car, and they handle well, but have nothing like the torque of the turbos. Its a pretty standard 170bhp 2 litre engine in a 1,250kg car. Quite similar to an MX-5 1.8 in pace.
The turbo is quite a different animal.
There are plenty on dealerships, drive a tubby, an S14 and a DC2 and see which makes you want to steal the keys!
The turbo is quite a different animal.
There are plenty on dealerships, drive a tubby, an S14 and a DC2 and see which makes you want to steal the keys!
They're all very different cars, but let there be no mistake the skyline rules them all for mile munching.
Even is standard form the Skyline is a different class of car, and has running costs accordingly. On a back road blast it really does feel big and heavy but on good B roads and above it just rules them all. The MR2 is just a small sports car, and IMO the extra feel doesn't make up for the lack of practicality offered by the MX5. The S15 is the best compromise sitting right between the two and a great car in it's own right and is also very modifiable. Arguably even more so than a Skyline within sensible limits.
If MPG is an issue the Skyline will disappoint you. Any mods on a GTST start with upgrading the fuel pump, which says it all.
I consider the S14 and 15 to be a baby skyline, and there's nothing wrong with that. Quick coupés rule.
Even is standard form the Skyline is a different class of car, and has running costs accordingly. On a back road blast it really does feel big and heavy but on good B roads and above it just rules them all. The MR2 is just a small sports car, and IMO the extra feel doesn't make up for the lack of practicality offered by the MX5. The S15 is the best compromise sitting right between the two and a great car in it's own right and is also very modifiable. Arguably even more so than a Skyline within sensible limits.
If MPG is an issue the Skyline will disappoint you. Any mods on a GTST start with upgrading the fuel pump, which says it all.
I consider the S14 and 15 to be a baby skyline, and there's nothing wrong with that. Quick coupés rule.
liner33 said:
mr2-turbo-gar said:
now for the skyline! it weights about the same as the moon, has a big 2.5 v6 24v and will cost a hell of a lot more than the other 2 on fuel, still very very realible and highly tuneable though.
Straight six NOT V6 
And at 1320Kg the R32 GTS-T is considerably lighter than the moon, and not that much heavier than an MR2T.S14a all day long.
Reliable, practical, spacious and comfy for longer journeys.
Combined with light weight, tunability and none of the scene tax of the Skyrine.
Mr2 is a different kettle of fish. I wouldn'r se one as an everyday car personally, but get a drive of both and see what you think.
Reliable, practical, spacious and comfy for longer journeys.
Combined with light weight, tunability and none of the scene tax of the Skyrine.
Mr2 is a different kettle of fish. I wouldn'r se one as an everyday car personally, but get a drive of both and see what you think.
GravelBen said:
_Batty_ said:
N/A does 60 in 7.5 ish and on to 140 apparently.
they have between 150 and 170bhp and do 35+ mpg.
i have a rev 1, with no ABS and PAS, and find it great cheap fun
they have between 150 and 170bhp and do 35+ mpg.
i have a rev 1, with no ABS and PAS, and find it great cheap fun
Theres always the later MR2 NA with the 200bhp BEAMS 3S-GE in it 
and if they are for sale they are north of £5k atm....
mattley said:
If MPG is an issue the Skyline will disappoint you. Any mods on a GTST start with upgrading the fuel pump, which says it all.
My mates freshly rebuilt RB30 gave 25mpg average running it in;) My Skyline when it had 330hp (flywheel) would give 26mpg on a steady run still over 20's on average driving , serious hoonage will see single figures though
The problems occur when people up the boost as the ECU will just pump more fuel in to control det.
If you are worried about fuel consumption the skyline like most turbo jap stuff really isnt for you
Ok, I've narrrowed it down to the DC 2 and the 200SX. although I think the DC2 may just be out of my price range by a little.
But would I be silly in considering an EVO IV if I could raise the cash? I have always wanted one. They come in at similar money to the DC2. But am I asking for a world of trouble?
I know the DC2 and 200SX are rock solid for day to day motoring.
But would I be silly in considering an EVO IV if I could raise the cash? I have always wanted one. They come in at similar money to the DC2. But am I asking for a world of trouble?
I know the DC2 and 200SX are rock solid for day to day motoring.
in my opinion i would go for the s14a for a fun sunday car, also parts for the s14 are relitively cheap. i am a great lover of the gtst and gtr but running costs are pretty high therefore not an ideal car to have in your situation. the sr20dett is a good base and can be put upto 300+ bhp with minor upgrades. Also the s14 is an extremely fun car and easy to drift.
Gassing Station | Japanese Chat | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff