Alpina B3
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Phugoid

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521 posts

278 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Alright folks,

How good are these (Alpina B3.3 Coupe), are they worth the premium over the 330Ci?

Looking at s/h values they are going for at least 2k more than the 330Ci. How similar are they mechanically?

There's a nice one near me for 12k for a 2000W model, with an impressive 44k on the clock. Bit poverty spec however, compared to what kind of spec 330Ci 12k would get you.

Thoughts?

Cheers

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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I used to own a B3 3.3 Saloon. Loved it. Dead smooth, well balanced etc. I had the "gentlemen's club" overload of wood on the dashboard, but nevertheless it was much more nicely trimmed than standard BMs.

Phugoid

Original Poster:

521 posts

278 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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The one I'm looking at has the more sporty metallic trim fortunately!

A 3.4S Touring pulled up at my work car park the other day, what a sound, completely different to what I had expected. This leads me to believe they've had substantial work done to that BMW S6 or is it just that bucket-esque backbox?

Also, is there any difference between those built in 99/00 and 02/03 when BMW upgraded the 3 series range around 2001ish?

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Tuesday 26th August 2008
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Check out the Alpina Register site for full tech details.

The engines are tweaked significantly from what I understand to give smoother delivery etc.

VerySideways

10,271 posts

301 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Most B3's are pretty well spec'd anyway, a mate of mine has a B10 4.6 and just picked up a B3S Cab for his missus.
When we went hunting for the cab we looked at a few B3 and a few B3S, and the B3S pulls noticeably stronger and smoother, but the B3 is in itself a big change from the 330.

Good luck!

andy43

13,203 posts

283 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I got mine a couple of weeks ago... damn best M power bargains thread furious it's a lovely thing, as said above, very smooth but with an edge to it, probably closer to the 330 step than the M3 SMG from very very limited drives in both.
Alpina register is the place for info but note there does seem to be a concern with excessive oil usage on 2000 models - don't know how accurate this is or whether it's just internet panic but worth checking out.
Interior is beautiful - soft leather (that doesn't seem to wear as well as std BM leather), posh carpets etc.
Recommended, but few around to choose from.
Note you don't need the coupe-bluetooth-headgear-and-cheap-shades or the M3-baseball-cap-and-expensive-shades for an Alpina - it's somewhere in between wink

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Interesting regarding the oil usage. Mine was a 2000 and it drank the stuff. No symptoms and car was fine in every other respect but I had to give it a drink very frequently.

Phugoid

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521 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Seems like it delivers the best of both worlds, nice automatic waftyness when you just wanna glide to work and then a flick of the thumb to downshift when you get to a tasty bend. Sounds good to me.

12k for 2000 model with 44k seem reasonable? Doesn't have xenons, decent hi-fi or satnav (cack anyway by all accounts)

PetrolTed

34,468 posts

332 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Sounds like a good price.

The Switchtronic is a good system IMO. Driving it in auto mode is a bit hopeless but if you use the paddle (button) shift then very good progress can be made.

B3Svert

553 posts

221 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I have a 2004 B3S (3.4L instead of 3.3) and have to say it's great, even better than what I expected it to be. I used to hate automatics, and still do whenever I have the displeasure of driving the OH's Merc or a hire car but the Alpina slushbox just does it so well. Effortless power with the ability to flick it into "touchtronic" mode and make the most of a masterpiece of an engine.

My advice would be to hold out for a B3S.

Phugoid

Original Poster:

521 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Is it not just an extra 25 odd hp from the slightly bored out engine?

What other changes were made to the S?

Phugoid

Original Poster:

521 posts

278 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Is it true that B3.3 is based on the 328i, whereas the B3s the 330i?

Thanks for the advice

alpinab3

238 posts

218 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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3.3
Power........................280bhp
(rpm..........................@6200rpm)
Torque........................247lb ft
(rpm..........................@4500rpm


b3s
Power........................305bhp
(rpm..........................@6300rpm)
Torque........................267lb ft
(rpm..........................@4800rpm)



Real Thing

28 posts

225 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Looks far to expensive might look nice and have a low mileage but the spec for a Alpina is very poor there’s similar Cars for Sale (higher Mileage but better spec for £3-4K less) There’s even a 3.4S 2002 in the Classifieds @ under £13K as Alpina’s are bullet proof I would be quite happy to buy an average or Higher Mileage Car that has a FSH
2000 Model Cars as previously said can suffer from high Oil Consumption I had a 2000X Coupe used about 1 litre per 500 miles They don’t seam to suffer any lack in performance and don’t even burn it (smoke) or leak but for some reason they just like drinking oil.
Best source of info Alpina Register: http://fastsaloons.com/forums/


Edited by Real Thing on Thursday 28th August 13:25