Misfire, stalling, poor idle arrrgh
Misfire, stalling, poor idle arrrgh
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thegman

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1,928 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Got an intermittent problem, although is becoming more frequent.

I have had an issue a couple of times where the car has suddenly lost power. The most recent time, after about 50 miles of flawless motorway driving, came into a town, little bit of traffic, then suddenly lost power - like it was misfiring and only running on a few cylinders.

When I stopped the car it wouldn't restart - the s. motor didnt even turn over.

Have also had a similar problem where I couldn't get off the idle circuit - i.e. whenever I put my foot down it would cut power.

Have also had an issue where power would cut out at 4500 rpm.

Have also had issues with erratic idle and stalling

These are all intermittent - often I can drive for hundreds of miles with no issues.

I have replaced:

- Coil
- Dizzy cap and rotor arm
- Plugs + extenders
- HT leads

I have cleaned the stepper - it seemed to be operating ok - i.e. I could see it retracting and extending when cycling the ignition.

Is this a DIY or do I need to get somebody with a fault reader? No MIL warning by the way....

Any help much appreciated

JonathanT

880 posts

315 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Throttle pot?

Mine was replaced a while ago following a spate of intermittent losses of power. It usually did it when trying to pull out of a side road into traffic ending up coughing and spluttering away. Scary!

sparky11

129 posts

264 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I had a similar problem to this recently - felt like it was missing and was incredibly jumpy (i.e. more than usual...) at around town speeds. Started at below 2K and then over time crept up until it was doing it all the time. Looked on here, checked all the obvious but still no joy. Then , purely by accident I happened to notice the contacts for the Coolant Temp Sensor were v. badly corroded - cleaned them up and its been absolutely fine since.

Can't understand why that would make it behave like that (would it produce a bad earth back to the ECU?) but it might be worth checking.

Good luck!

Mark

thegman

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1,928 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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mark - where is this located? I will take a look

also - can somebody recommend a good place to buy a thottle pot. and is this a diy - from memory it is only held on with one screw - but will i then need to reset ecu?

Edited by thegman on Wednesday 27th August 13:15

f@-pots

204 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I had a similar problem which turned out to be the 100 amp fuse,which was on the verge of breaking down thus causing the problem intermitantly. Worth a try.......

thegman

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1,928 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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duh - where is the 100 amp fuse?

f@-pots

204 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Just read your post again, you mentioned the starter not turning over , so it cant be the throttle pot or temp sensor as they have nothing to do with the starter motor, more likely to be a low tension problem which points again to the 100 amp fuse !

f@-pots

204 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Its located under the car on the rh chassis rail just forward of the starter motor. It hides in a little plastic shroud .

thegman

Original Poster:

1,928 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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hmm - so I would need to get the car on stands i suppose.

f@-pots

204 posts

234 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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Its possible to do it with the car on jacks but if it were me I'd get it up on ramps or at least axle stands, since passing forty I'm no longer invincible!! You can follow the shorter red cable running from the starter to find the 100 amp fuse box .

Best of luck............ Nick.......

JonathanT

880 posts

315 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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f@-pots said:
Just read your post again, you mentioned the starter not turning over , so it cant be the throttle pot or temp sensor as they have nothing to do with the starter motor, more likely to be a low tension problem which points again to the 100 amp fuse !
I've reread the OP. I've also had (twice) a breakdown of the 100A fuse, the first was on a French autoroute where I had a sudden (but permanent loss of power) - the car refused to rev over 3500rpm. Each time the oil pressure sender failed such that the gauge would read 0psi -> 10psi if revved. However the alternator light also came on (but would go out if revved hard).

It's worth a check.

thegman

Original Poster:

1,928 posts

235 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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ok final question - where can I buy a 100 amp fuse? do I need to get this from a specialist supplier?

JonathanT

880 posts

315 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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I wouldn't expect that they are specialist - good motor factor? They look like this:

http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/291

and cost practically nothing.

Edited by JonathanT on Wednesday 27th August 17:43

GreenV8S

31,027 posts

315 months

Wednesday 27th August 2008
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You've had several failures that aren't obviously related, but one thing they all have in common is that the affected circuits all depend on the switched ignition feed from the ignition switch to the main loom (starter solenoid supply by virtue of going the through the alarm which will be enabled by the ignition circuit). The connector between the switch and the main loom is notoriously unreliable and tends top break down and become get worse with age, so I suggest you check that the next chance you get.

sparky11

129 posts

264 months

Thursday 28th August 2008
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Gman,

Not sure if this is still relevant considering the replies above, but for future reference the CTS is located at the bottom of the stainless swirl tank at the front of the engine (on serp motors anyway) - its the one with the brass top.
The connectors are only blades in a plastic fitting so they don't last forever.

Can also agree with getting a few 100A fuses - keep 'em everywhere!

Hope that helps.

Mark