Life insurance with no medical?
Life insurance with no medical?
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Shellz_Mach1

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433 posts

246 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Does anyone know if it's possible to get serious life/disability cover (£1m or thereabouts) without undergoing a medical check up?

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

278 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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What, are you nuts??? For £1m? No chance! Specifying no medical means there's something wrong with you. Suspicious lot, underwriters.

deckster

9,631 posts

286 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Even with my paltry £200k of cover they needed to see my medical records, for £1M I can imagine that the underwriters might want to know what kind of risk they are insuring!

Any reason for the antipathy to a medical? Surely not trying to cover up an existing condition wink!?

Shellz_Mach1

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433 posts

246 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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My thoughts exactly, but I said I'd ask "the people who will know"! biggrin

Edited by Shellz_Mach1 on Friday 29th August 14:45

Curry Burns

5,620 posts

246 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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  • sniff sniff* I smell a froudster

AndyAudi

4,021 posts

253 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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A while back I got a new policy for my old man (Late 40's) £½Milion 10yr Term. He didn't need a medical.

FPC

8,286 posts

253 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Have you tried Cavendish Online for quotes - the only commission is an upfront £35 payment. According to MSE they are normally the cheapest. No medical required when I got £200k cover.

Fidgits

17,202 posts

260 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Have you recently paid £20k on a BMW 3 series that met with an unfortunate end?

Shellz_Mach1

Original Poster:

433 posts

246 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Fidgits said:
Have you recently paid £20k on a BMW 3 series that met with an unfortunate end?
Ha ha. No, I'm not that entertaining!! biggrin

I did look at Cavendish but couldn't find an upper limit on cover. The insurance is not for me (I'm just doing the initial research) and so I can't be ar5ed to do a quotation.

Andy Zarse

10,870 posts

278 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Shellz, your friend needs to be careful of the non-disclosure of material facts; i.e. she must tell the insurer of any known facts that might affect their decision to underwrite or insure. In other words there must be a reason why he/she does not want to attend a medical; summat's wrong with them!

The onus is very much on her, and non-disclosure is far and away the biggest reason that life/disability claims are declined or rejected. It's the same principle as our BMW-owning fronter last week!

Dogwatch

6,384 posts

253 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Before you even get to a medical they'll be requesting a report from your doctor (or whoever's) so the medical really confirms your present state of health, and might include a cardio check.

I would expect they'll also send a financial questionnaire to find out if you are really worth £1m cover. They would expect a substantial income and lifestyle with confirmation from your accountant.

V8S

8,582 posts

268 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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How does this work?

You pay, what £20 a month for 20 years = £4,800. You then snuff it from a heart attack. Your family are then paid half a million.

How do life insurance companies stay in business?

esselte

14,626 posts

298 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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V8S said:
How does this work?

You pay, what £20 a month for 20 years = £4,800. You then snuff it from a heart attack. Your family are then paid half a million.

How do life insurance companies stay in business?
You could say that about any insurance...

ettore

5,124 posts

283 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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V8S said:
How does this work?

You pay, what £20 a month for 20 years = £4,800. You then snuff it from a heart attack. Your family are then paid half a million.

How do life insurance companies stay in business?
Having started to train an an actuary (before I saw sense) I think you`ll find they`re a little bit more clever than that. General rule of thumb is that most people who pay £20 a month don`t keel over from a heart attack.

HTH.

ettore

5,124 posts

283 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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.....and no you ain`t got a hope of £1M of cover sans medical unless you`re prepared to pay an awesome monthly premium!

V8S

8,582 posts

268 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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ettore said:
V8S said:
How does this work?

You pay, what £20 a month for 20 years = £4,800. You then snuff it from a heart attack. Your family are then paid half a million.

How do life insurance companies stay in business?
Having started to train an an actuary (before I saw sense) I think you`ll find they`re a little bit more clever than that. General rule of thumb is that most people who pay £20 a month don`t keel over from a heart attack.

HTH.
But don't they pay out on death of any kind mostly? Everyone dies of something in the end, so MOST policies must be paid out (barring non-disclosure, fraid, suicide within number of years).

ettore

5,124 posts

283 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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V8S said:
ettore said:
V8S said:
How does this work?

You pay, what £20 a month for 20 years = £4,800. You then snuff it from a heart attack. Your family are then paid half a million.

How do life insurance companies stay in business?
Having started to train an an actuary (before I saw sense) I think you`ll find they`re a little bit more clever than that. General rule of thumb is that most people who pay £20 a month don`t keel over from a heart attack.

HTH.
But don't they pay out on death of any kind mostly? Everyone dies of something in the end, so MOST policies must be paid out (barring non-disclosure, fraid, suicide within number of years).
Try and get a quote for an 88 year old smoker, living in Glasgow.

Trax

1,601 posts

263 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Not sure why you wouldnt want a medical to be carried out.

The only ones that I have seen that dont want any medica information is the guaranteed cover ones for older people, and these tend to be for small amounts.

When you apply for cover, you fill a medical questionaire in, and you will have to do that for the type of cover that you are applying for. As has been mentioned, tell them everything, and I mean everything that they ask for. Something like a third of claims are not paid out due to non disclosure, and when, for example your husband dies and leaves you with the mortgage, you dont want to be told that everything is not going to be fine with your family, as you didnt tell them about seeing the Doctor for blood pressure a year before you applied for the policy.

If you generally have answered no to the questions, and are not overweight, you shouldnt tend to need a medical. If you have answered yes to some questions, then they may write to your Doctor for info about the type of issues you had, but this does not neccesarily mean a medical will be carried out.

Not sure what you are worried about, but unless you have had something major, you should be able to get cover. It may mean an increase in premium due to a higher risk you may have, but at least you are covered.


Jasandjules

72,653 posts

260 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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V8S said:
How does this work?

You pay, what £20 a month for 20 years = £4,800. You then snuff it from a heart attack. Your family are then paid half a million.

How do life insurance companies stay in business?
Because

1. Many people lie when taking out a policy so they don't pay
2. There are many nits of small print to help them not pay out
3. Even when it's clear cut they may not pay out.

So they take money in, don't pay as much out, hey presto TVRs for the underwriters

scotal

8,751 posts

310 months

Friday 29th August 2008
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Jasandjules said:
V8S said:
How does this work?

You pay, what £20 a month for 20 years = £4,800. You then snuff it from a heart attack. Your family are then paid half a million.

How do life insurance companies stay in business?
Because

1. Many people lie when taking out a policy so they don't pay
2. There are many nits of small print to help them not pay out
3. Even when it's clear cut they may not pay out.

So they take money in, don't pay as much out, hey presto TVRs for the underwriters
Actually its because far more people pay in to life assurance than make a claim, but I like your version better.