Foreign Driver Named on NIP

[goodlife]

A friend lent his car to a colleague from Ireland. His colleague was snapped by a camera, so my friend put his Irish colleagues name & address (in Ireland) on the NIP, signed it, and return it.

That was six months ago now. His Irish colleague has not heard a thing. Has his Irish colleague got away with it?

[Mr E]

Very probably I suspect.

Just like my close friend Baz "Dingo" McShane of somewhere in the outback, Australia

[goodlife]

Mr E said:

Very probably I suspect. Just like my close friend Baz "Dingo" McShane of somewhere in the outback, Australia

Exactly

[justme]

Since the alleged driver was a non-UK licence holder, then yes, he got away with it.

[206xsi]

Foreign drivers can't have points - so must go to court - I believe papers must be served to court in 6 months...

[justme]

yep....

If all the details you put on the NIP are spoton correct, then he should be expecting a dawn raid FBI-style from his local police (or maybe not, as the case maybe)

[goodlife]

206xsi said:

Foreign drivers can't have points - so must go to court - I believe papers must be served to court in 6 months...

So the only way they can be fined is to be extradited from their home country within 6 months? The expense of extradition will massively outweigh the revenue received from any fines, so one would hope the CPS would just drop it.

Looks like I might have to find some more friends overseas.

[Mad Dave]

One of my colleagues came over from Romania, shes Irish, living in Romania - anyway, she was snapped in one of our charity cars and we received the NIP. We just put her details down and explained that she was resident in Romania and probably would be for some time.

Result - case dropped.

[goodlife]

So is this method guaranteed to make sure you get no points or fine from a NIP?

[simonrockman]

If you are abroad and get stopped for speeding you should always show your UK licence and explain that you are on the way to the airport and late for the plane.

The usual reaction will be that they are getting rid of you anyway, so it's not worth the effort.

[Tivster]

justme said:

Since the alleged driver was a non-UK licence holder, then yes, he got away with it.

Not exactly - if they wished at any time to commence proceedings within the 6 month limit then they could dissue points/disqualify etc pending his return to this country for residence etc. If he then applied for a UK driving license, he'd get the points on it straight away.
Your 'friend' may well have received no paperwork within the six month limit but it remains a possibility that the court have commenced proceedings in his abscence, in which case he could in fact be a wanted man - worst case scenario and obviously hypothetical - just to clarify Justme

[cazzo]

Mr E said:

Very probably I suspect. Just like my close friend Baz "Dingo" McShane of somewhere in the outback, Australia

Aah, you know him too?

[cazzo]

simonrockman said:

If you are abroad and get stopped for speeding you should always show your UK licence and explain that you are on the way to the airport and late for the plane. The usual reaction will be that they are getting rid of you anyway, so it's not worth the effort.

Except in France where they hit you with a £200 on-the-spot fine

[dick dastardly]

My mate used to import cars from Germany before the bubble burst and he always said to leave the foreign plates on for as long as possible 'cos you can park anywhere and drive as you like without any tickets coming your way.

Seems like they can't be bothered with all the work involved trying to cross country and language borders.

Does that mean it's not about justice for offences but about cost & revenue then?

[justme]

Tivster said:

Not exactly - if they wished at any time to commence proceedings within the 6 month limit then they could dissue points/disqualify etc pending his return to this country for residence etc. If he then applied for a UK driving license, he'd get the points on it straight away.

quite correct

Tivster said:

Your 'friend' may well have received no paperwork within the six month limit but it remains a possibility that the court have commenced proceedings in his abscence, in which case he could in fact be a wanted man

Wanted man indeed. "Dead or Alive" posters hanging everywhere, FBI website etc.
Well spotted.

Your 'quotes' around the word friend look out of place - are they like those plural's of the younger generation? Just wondering...

[Mr E]

cazzo said:

Mr E said: Very probably I suspect. Just like my close friend Baz "Dingo" McShane of somewhere in the outback, Australia Aah, you know him too?

Good lad is old Dingo. Shame about that incident with the kangeroo.....

[BLUEYES]

Friend of mine emigrated to EEC country. Came over here and got flashed TWICE by gatsos in Dads U.K. car (thought it was lightning!!!) Dad received the 172, names the ex pat, and was then asked to provide proof of siblings visit to the U.K. Not within their power methinks, but dad sends off airline boarding cards anyway and sibling hears nothing. THEN the second 172 arrives. Dad repeats the process but obviously can't produce the boarding cards again so tells them to **** off. Nothing ever heard of again, no fines no points and that was over 18 months ago.

Question for BIB: Even if they did put points on an ex-pats licence or a foreigners "ghost" licence, and they got banned, wouldn't their EEC licence still be valid, so couldn't they still drive in the U.K.?

[Tivster]

justme said:

Tivster said: Not exactly - if they wished at any time to commence proceedings within the 6 month limit then they could dissue points/disqualify etc pending his return to this country for residence etc. If he then applied for a UK driving license, he'd get the points on it straight away. quite correct Tivster said: Your 'friend' may well have received no paperwork within the six month limit but it remains a possibility that the court have commenced proceedings in his abscence, in which case he could in fact be a wanted man Wanted man indeed. "Dead or Alive" posters hanging everywhere, FBI website etc. Well spotted. Your 'quotes' around the word friend look out of place - are they like those plural's of the younger generation? Just wondering...

[yodamodeon]
Pick holes in typography you can. Very wise in this respect you are. Unecessary sarcasm you have. Knowledgeable of the force you are not!
[yodamodeoff]

Unless of course you're a closet solicitor/magistrate or worse one of us....?
Keep revising..you'll get the point's you miss soon.

Oh yes, I forgot; your use of the English language lacks structure. The problem lies with your repetitive use of fragmented sentences which confound even the Bill Gates Rules of Grammatical Composition. (intentional capitalisation in the latter)





>> Edited by Tivster on Thursday 18th September 12:06

[Tivster]

BLUEYES said:

Friend of mine emigrated to EEC country. Came over here and got flashed TWICE by gatsos in Dads U.K. car (thought it was lightning!!!) Dad received the 172, names the ex pat, and was then asked to provide proof of siblings visit to the U.K. Not within their power methinks, but dad sends off airline boarding cards anyway and sibling hears nothing. THEN the second 172 arrives. Dad repeats the process but obviously can't produce the boarding cards again so tells them to **** off. Nothing ever heard of again, no fines no points and that was over 18 months ago. Question for BIB: Even if they did put points on an ex-pats licence or a foreigners "ghost" licence, and they got banned, wouldn't their EEC licence still be valid, so couldn't they still drive in the U.K.?

Soon there will be a pan-Euro license that means disqal/point in one country = banned /points in any other EEC member state. Ooops!

[206xsi]

Tivster said:

Soon there will be a pan-Euro license that means disqal/point in one country = banned /points in any other EEC member state. Ooops!

And anyone who vote pro-EEC agricultural policy in the 70s can hang their heads in shame - it's all your fault!!!