Importing goods from the states (and ways to pay?)
Importing goods from the states (and ways to pay?)
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TonyHetherington

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32,091 posts

280 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Hi world

We're looking to buy some gauges for the car - around £500 worth in total. However, in the states they are $500, so the savings are clearly there to be had.

On phoning the company, they want us to send a photocopy of our credit card so they can do a customer not present. So my first question - does that sound right?

Second question, what's the way to get them posted? We're aware there will be import taxes - will it be the 25% tax, and only that (assume it gets caught) or will there be further costs? Even with the 25% addition it's still worth doing so we're happy to do it "properly".

Thanks all biggrin
Tony

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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TonyHetherington said:
On phoning the company, they want us to send a photocopy of our credit card so they can do a customer not present. So my first question - does that sound right?
I've bought loads of stuff from the states and have never been asked to do this. Presumably they must also require anyone who is buying over the phone or online to do the same?

Can't they just process your payment over the phone?

Seems a bit odd to me.

andye30m3

3,500 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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I thought it was just the VAT you need to pay.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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andye30m3 said:
I thought it was just the VAT you need to pay.
That was my understanding too.

ehasler

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313 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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El stovey said:
andye30m3 said:
I thought it was just the VAT you need to pay.
That was my understanding too.
Nope - for most items, you'll also have to pay import duty as well as VAT. Oh, and a handling fee too by the courier company.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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ehasler said:
El stovey said:
andye30m3 said:
I thought it was just the VAT you need to pay.
That was my understanding too.
Nope - for most items, you'll also have to pay import duty as well as VAT. Oh, and a handling fee too by the courier company.
I think you pay import duty and vat on the postage as well just to rub it in....unless the value is £18 or less.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Tony, why not go there on holiday and buy them there?

Just bring them home in your suitcase or on your person cunningly disguised as jewelry?

SS HSV

9,646 posts

288 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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If its Autometer guages you are after, go on ebay.com and pay them with Paypal.

As mentioned earlier, the courier will add £10-£15 service charge and you may get stung for VAT, but a lot of stuff that comes through doesnt attract any charges.

Either way it is a lot cheaper due to the currency rates.

TonyHetherington

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Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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That's what we thought - why can it not be done over the phone? But I did get the impression that they were a simple company (if you see what I mean).

Thinking about it further though, I can't see what they could do with a crap photocopy of our credit card that they couldn't do with the raw numbers?!

ehasler

8,579 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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They may just be worried about fraud, and want to see that you do actually own the card, rather than just having a stolen account number.

andrew_huxtable

936 posts

218 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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I heard a rumour that if you ask them to mark as gift you wont get charged the import duty, could be a load of nonsense though as i`ve never ordered anything from the states to test it out

TonyHetherington

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280 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Unfortunately to go there isn't really viable (though we do keep looking out for people who are going hehe ).

As said above, even with import duty plus vat plus charges, at 2:1 dollars for the pound, it still makes it cheaper importing from the states.

Maybe we'll give them another ring and get the lowdown on why they need the car picture. But, really, what can they do with the picture that they cant do with the numbers?

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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andrew_huxtable said:
I heard a rumour that if you ask them to mark as gift you wont get charged the import duty, could be a load of nonsense though as i`ve never ordered anything from the states to test it out
Mount Pleasant's been wise to that one for a long time. They examine a percentage of packages regardless of the gift thing and, if they reckon you're taking the piss, send you a nice letter demanding money.

ThatPhilBrettGuy

11,810 posts

270 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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TonyHetherington said:
....at 2:1 dollars for the pound....
Ah, those were the days. Under 1.8 now frown

TonyHetherington

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32,091 posts

280 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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But is that more money than if you just declared it anyway, Graham, or is there a fine on top?

thehawk

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237 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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El stovey said:
TonyHetherington said:
On phoning the company, they want us to send a photocopy of our credit card so they can do a customer not present. So my first question - does that sound right?
I've bought loads of stuff from the states and have never been asked to do this. Presumably they must also require anyone who is buying over the phone or online to do the same?

Can't they just process your payment over the phone?

Seems a bit odd to me.
I have bought loads of stuff from the States, off several major retailers and most of them require a photocopy of the credit card either faxed to them or a scan of it emailed to them. This included J&R, BH Photo and Dr Jays.

Famous Graham

26,553 posts

255 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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TonyHetherington said:
But is that more money than if you just declared it anyway, Graham, or is there a fine on top?
Well, you didn't put the 'gift' thing on, the despatcher did, so I don't think you're liable to be "done" for anything. So I guess the former. Don't take that as gospel though, all I can say is I've 'only' ever been charged import duty, VAT and the robbing bd courier handling charge. And more often than not they hold the goods until payment, rather than send an invoice after the fact.

andrew_huxtable

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218 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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Famous Graham said:
andrew_huxtable said:
I heard a rumour that if you ask them to mark as gift you wont get charged the import duty, could be a load of nonsense though as i`ve never ordered anything from the states to test it out
Mount Pleasant's been wise to that one for a long time. They examine a percentage of packages regardless of the gift thing and, if they reckon you're taking the piss, send you a nice letter demanding money.
mmm suppose they would need to prove it isnt a gift though? how would they go about that

Famous Graham

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255 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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ThatPhilBrettGuy said:
TonyHetherington said:
....at 2:1 dollars for the pound....
Ah, those were the days. Under 1.8 now frown
Got 300 GBP a few months ago into my US account at 582 USD. Same amount today went in at 499 frown

TonyHetherington

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280 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2008
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ooooo, we'd better be quick eek

Interesting others had asked for photocopy of credit card. I can't see that it would do more harm than them just having the numbers so am inclined to go for it? I assume it's to prevent fraud of somesort (you know what they say about assuming, though).