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B16JUS

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2,386 posts

267 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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going back to my helecopter lessons thread if you passed your test is it as simple as getting a helicopter leaving it in your garden and when you fancy it going for a fly can you fly anywhere apart from airport airspace etc is there a set hight you have to stay can you just go to your friends house and land in his garden ?

J

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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STOP THIS IMMEDIATELY....

Heckilopters are the work of the devil...

They were not meant to be...

Gretchen

19,802 posts

246 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Erm, no. Probably.

With planes you need a licence to operate an airfield, although you can run on a 28day licence which enables you to use a field for example for 28 days of the year, as long as you have some kind of agricultural machinery in storage, ie a lawn mower, or something, maybe, I could be wrong, but i'm sure this would or should apply to helicopters too?? Possibly. I really have no idea.

HTH.


Blib

48,241 posts

227 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Did you know that scientifically, helicopters shouldn't be able to fly?

Or is that bumble bees?

Gretchen

19,802 posts

246 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Blib said:
Did you know that scientifically, helicopters shouldn't be able to fly?

Or is that bumble bees?
I think you'll find it's Penguins. Actually.


mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Gretchen said:
I really have no idea.

HTH.
rofl....are you one of Gordon Brown's advisors?

Blib

48,241 posts

227 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Gretchen said:
Blib said:
Did you know that scientifically, helicopters shouldn't be able to fly?

Or is that bumble bees?
I think you'll find it's Penguins. Actually.
Thanks Gretchen!

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mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

285 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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I know somebody who used to fly into his back garden. I believe he had planning permission for limited access, but this was reversed after neighbours objected.

outlaw biker

2,458 posts

226 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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One of our directors has been known to fly into work in his helicopter. I used to have a friend of a friend who'd turn up at BBQ's and showjumping events in his helicopter.

Bloody showoffs smile

shirt

25,499 posts

231 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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B16JUS said:
going back to my helecopter lessons thread if you passed your test is it as simple as getting a helicopter leaving it in your garden and when you fancy it going for a fly can you fly anywhere apart from airport airspace etc is there a set hight you have to stay can you just go to your friends house and land in his garden ?

J
in a word, no.

i suggest you go to www.pprune.com

you need to register but there is a dedicated area for helicopters [called 'rotorheads']. follow the stickies for 'so you want to be a helicopter pilot' and take it from there. forum is useful [its meant for pro pilots but loads of private ones use it too] but search first before asking questions, they're not as tolerant as PH and thats saying something!

IforB

9,840 posts

259 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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No you can't. Well actually you can, but you need permission.

The wonderful 28 day rule sees to that. You need a clear approach and be well away from other people's buildings, roads etc.

If you have a farm or are in the middle of no-where, then build a hangar and just get on with it, if you have neighbours, prepare for war with them!

As for landing in other people's gardens. Unless you recce the site, then no. You need to look for cables, animals, trees, wind direction etc etc. Heli's can land anywhere up to a point, but there are many criteria to making a safe approach and subsequent take off.

You'll be trained in how to deal with off airfield landings, but they can be extremely challenging and there is a lot more to it than just getting in and going for it. All you'll do is kill yourself or write off a really expensive piece of kit if you try that.

Edited by IforB on Friday 5th September 23:43

Flintstone

8,644 posts

277 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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B16JUS said:
going back to my helecopter lessons thread
Under CAA regulations you must be allowed to correctly spell whatever it is you wish to fly. So that's you buggered wink

B16JUS said:
if you passed your test is it as simple as getting a helicopter leaving it in your garden and when you fancy it going for a fly can you fly anywhere apart from airport airspace etc is there a set hight you have to stay can you just go to your friends house and land in his garden ?J
No no no and no*.









  • It's far more complicated than this and as has already been written depends upon things like planning permission and airspace. If you're serious about flying a helicopter you'll learn all about it in your studies. If you're not, don't bother. It's very, very boring.


PS PPRuNe moderators are absolute b@stards wink

PPS If you ARE serious about learning to fly the damn things then before you spend a bean wander into a hangar and ask an engineer about the Jesus nut. If that doesn't put you off then you're dumb enough for helicopters.



Edited by Flintstone on Friday 5th September 23:44

RDE

5,037 posts

244 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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You'd need to obey Rule 5 of the Air Navigation Order (exciting stuff). This stipulates that you must be at least 500ft from any person vehicle, vessel, structure or vegetable unless you're landing, taking off or crashing. Other than that you could potentially fly at any height you like outside of controlled airspace (airports and tha').

I should probably know, but I don't, whether you need some sort of permission to have your back garden as a permanent home for the thing.

P.S. Engineers will give you a rather complicated mathematical explanation for how a helicopter flies, but the truth is simple; they are so ugly, the ground repells them. Just look at this moose:


FourWheelDrift

92,357 posts

314 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Blib said:
Did you know that scientifically, helicopters shouldn't be able to fly?

Or is that bumble bees?
Bumble bees can't fly helicopters.

King Herald

23,501 posts

246 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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Blib said:
Did you know that scientifically, helicopters shouldn't be able to fly?
Please, don't ever say that again. nono





Herald mentally prepares for the helicopter crew change next week, in the immediate path of hurricane Ike

Flintstone

8,644 posts

277 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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King Herald said:
Blib said:
Did you know that scientifically, helicopters shouldn't be able to fly?
Please, don't ever say that again. nono


Herald mentally prepares for the helicopter crew change next week, in the immediate path of hurricane Ike
Herald. Ask the pilot about the Jesus nut eek

RDE

5,037 posts

244 months

Friday 5th September 2008
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With regard to the ANO, here's a link to it if you want to read it. Honestly, it makes Harry Potter look like a sack of Hippogriff schitt.

http://www.caa.co.uk/application.aspx?catid=33&amp...

Edited by RDE on Friday 5th September 23:50

TPAC

3,358 posts

221 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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What gets me is; given that they are bloody impossible to fly until you've had a million hours, how did the first man ever fly one?

if you see what I mean

eharding

14,648 posts

314 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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Flintstone said:
PS PPRuNe moderators are absolute b@stards wink
Oh, I don't know - they're generally pussycats - I think I managed to make one of them cry once. I'm not proud of it though.

To the OP - should you choose to pass into the Valley of Bile which the Proon can on occasions present, for fook's sake run a spell checker on your posts before pressing the "I'm a cackwit" button. As for the original garden question - if both your (and your mate's) gardens are of sufficient size that the nearest neighbours can't hear you starting your whirling oil-leak of a bankruptcy generator at sparrow fart, then you're fine - because if you don't already have a garden the size of Berkshire, then you probably can't afford to put a helicopter in it....

Edited by eharding on Saturday 6th September 00:14

Flintstone

8,644 posts

277 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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eharding said:
Flintstone said:
PS PPRuNe moderators are absolute b@stards wink
Oh, I don't know - they're generally pussycats -
Are you calling wor lass a puff?