Graffiti - how, who and why?
Graffiti - how, who and why?
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srebbe64

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13,021 posts

267 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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I've noticed that in and around our town centre of late that there seems to be more graffiti. I also noticed that several of these 'signatures' were at least 10-12 foot above ground level. This got me thinking: How do they do that - do they bring a ladder? Who the hell does it? And why the hell do they feel the need to put their 'sig' on peoples' private property?

Personally, I reckon the perpetrators should be banged up but that's another subject!

molestrangler

976 posts

237 months

Saturday 6th September 2008
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I think you will find that if you apply to the local council and ask for form TW4T69-3B, you can get a grant for a cherry picker from the Arts council (luvee).................

Edited by molestrangler on Saturday 6th September 20:26

otolith

69,394 posts

234 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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According to the graffiti in a neighbouring village, their local bobby has brave genitalia; "PC Taylor's is a bold prick", apparently. I have visions of the "Romanes eunt domus" scene from Life Of Brian laugh

groomi

9,331 posts

273 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Unfortunately everyone wants to be Banksy. ie. famous for being a disrespectful, law-breaking, cowardly prick.


The most heart-warming scene I ever witnessed was a couple of parents forcing their little scrote to clean his graffitti off of a road sign on a Sunday morning - all the traffic driving by were tooting their horns in appreciation and the kid looked mortally wounded. Justice, served cold, with a helping of egg on face. smile

groucho

12,134 posts

276 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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otolith said:
According to the graffiti in a neighbouring village, their local bobby has brave genitalia; "PC Taylor's is a bold prick", apparently. I have visions of the "Romanes eunt domus" scene from Life Of Brian laugh
What actually do they mean?

alman

796 posts

240 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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If it looks good and not on anyones particular property then I really can't see a problem with it.

Sprouts

865 posts

219 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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alman said:
If it looks good and not on anyones particular property then I really can't see a problem with it.
but not everyone wants to see it.

Shaolin

2,955 posts

219 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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alman said:
If it looks good and not on anyones particular property then I really can't see a problem with it.
It is graffiti, ergo it is a fookin' scummy mess.

Kozy

3,169 posts

248 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Not all graffiti is though, and being art, it is an entirely subjective matter. Some will like, some will not.

marshalla

15,902 posts

231 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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alman said:
If it looks good and not on anyones particular property then I really can't see a problem with it.
OK - give me an example of something which could be gratffitied and is not anyone's property then ?

Brown and Boris

11,838 posts

265 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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groomi said:
Unfortunately everyone wants to be Banksy. ie. famous for being a disrespectful, law-breaking, cowardly prick.


The most heart-warming scene I ever witnessed was a couple of parents forcing their little scrote to clean his graffitti off of a road sign on a Sunday morning - all the traffic driving by were tooting their horns in appreciation and the kid looked mortally wounded. Justice, served cold, with a helping of egg on face. smile
May moons ago and in a different life when I was a community beat bobby we had a problem with graffiti on lamp posts, bus stops roads signs etc. I spent one evening visiting the parents of the kids whose names appeared and with their permission ran a half term work party with the kids with scourers and Jif (as it was) scrubbing it all off. I wasn't interested too much in who did it but the agreement was that if their name appeared, they had to join in. We only ddid it once in full view of the locals, bus drivers, shop keeper, old dears and dogs and the problem dropped to almost nil overnight.

mat205125

17,790 posts

243 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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groucho said:
otolith said:
According to the graffiti in a neighbouring village, their local bobby has brave genitalia; "PC Taylor's is a bold prick", apparently. I have visions of the "Romanes eunt domus" scene from Life Of Brian laugh
What actually do they mean?
Romans go home?

Sprouts

865 posts

219 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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if I want to see art I go to an art gallery, I don't want to see it all over the place. It's my choice.

groucho

12,134 posts

276 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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mat205125 said:
groucho said:
otolith said:
According to the graffiti in a neighbouring village, their local bobby has brave genitalia; "PC Taylor's is a bold prick", apparently. I have visions of the "Romanes eunt domus" scene from Life Of Brian laugh
What actually do they mean?
Romans go home?
I know that. biggrin

Airbag

3,466 posts

226 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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groomi said:
Unfortunately everyone wants to be Banksy. ie. famous for being a disrespectful, law-breaking, cowardly prick.
There is a big difference between Banksy's works and most graffiti, particularly tags and gang signs. But you don't care, now do you?

dxg

10,800 posts

290 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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The current evolution of graffiti seems to involve extensive use of stencils. Now the results are *really* good, but is it graffiti?

Shaolin

2,955 posts

219 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Sprouts said:
if I want to see art I go to an art gallery, I don't want to see it all over the place. It's my choice.
Exactly.

Even the graffiti that we are told is art is in 99% of cases not what I want to see, and the vast majority of what is intended to be "art" is just utter crap.

One of the worst things about graffiti vandals is the supreme arrogance whereby they are so pleased with themselves that they think everyone wants to see what they do in a public place. Real artists have to compete and get permission to display their work.

mickk

30,515 posts

272 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Graffiti is vandalism, art is art simple really. Therefore Banksy is a vandal
imho

groomi

9,331 posts

273 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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Airbag said:
groomi said:
Unfortunately everyone wants to be Banksy. ie. famous for being a disrespectful, law-breaking, cowardly prick.
There is a big difference between Banksy's works and most graffiti, particularly tags and gang signs. But you don't care, now do you?
To be honest, no. I admire Banksy's work from an artistic point of view, and ofcourse these days I think he is often given permission (or perhaps even commissioned) to paint in specific places. But vandalism, is vandalism. If it's not his property, then it should not be done.

Not to mention the fact that if I decided to paint a 20ft high IRA soldier on the front of my house, I'm sure the local planning authority will be on my case...

OllieBirmingham

5,702 posts

222 months

Sunday 7th September 2008
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mickk said:
Graffiti is vandalism, art is art simple really. Therefore Banksy is a vandal
imho
Banksy is a legend, and a valuable social commentator, therefore his work should be applauded.