Atkins Diet - stuck!
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Old Blakey

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483 posts

234 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Started Atkins Diet two weeks ago.
Went from 12st 2lbs to 11st 9lbs in first week.
All last week, stuck on 11st 9lbs
Need to lose a stone round the middle.
Rowing every day for 20 mins plus a bit of bike.
Stopped doing any type of sit-ups on recommendation from Osteopath (who reckons no-one should ever do them)

Need help kick-starting it again, else I'm going to give up.






Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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I've lost nearly a stone in a week on the Cambridge Diet.

It's hard, but worth it. Give this a try.

Works on a similar basis (ketosis), but without all the fat intake. All you take in is protien so a lot healthier than the Atkins.

www.cambridgediet.co.uk



Edited by Cara Van Man on Wednesday 10th September 11:47

Swilly

9,699 posts

304 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Atkins died of a heart-attack.... just so you know !!

Timmy35

13,014 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Surely you need to give it a bit more time? To sustainably loose a decent amount of weight will take more then a few weeks. You are after all attempting to purge @ 40,000 Kcal (14lb * 3000 kcals per lb of fat IIRC ) from your body.

Edited by Timmy35 on Wednesday 10th September 11:48

groucho

12,134 posts

276 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Old Blakey said:
Started Atkins Diet two weeks ago.
Went from 12st 2lbs to 11st 9lbs in first week.
All last week, stuck on 11st 9lbs
Need to lose a stone round the middle.
Rowing every day for 20 mins plus a bit of bike.
Stopped doing any type of sit-ups on recommendation from Osteopath (who reckons no-one should ever do them)

Need help kick-starting it again, else I'm going to give up.
12st 2lbs doesn't seem that heavy.

Maxf

8,444 posts

271 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Cara Van Man said:
I've lost nearly a stone in a week on the Cambridge Diet.

It's hard, but worth it. Give this a try.

Works on a similar basis (ketosis), but without all the fat intake. All you take in is protien so a lot healthier than the Atkins.

www.cambridgediet.co.uk



Edited by Cara Van Man on Wednesday 10th September 11:47
Just had a look at that - can you just buy it and do it or do you need to do all the other bks?

cambridge-diet.co.uk is the one I looked at.

Tuna

19,930 posts

314 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Any diet that 'helps' you loose a stone in a week is not a long term diet, just a short term fix. Your body will quickly realise it's being starved and put the brakes on. Not only that, but the moment you start eating normally, it'll pile on the fat in preparation for the next time you choose to starve yourself.

To loose weight and keep it off, you should be aiming for between 1 and 4 pounds a week over a long period, depending how far you are above your ideal body weight.

To loose sensible amounts of weight, the simple answer is to eat less calories each day than you're buring up. You burn calories even when you sit still, so it's just a question of balancing the books. Whenever people post on this (and other) forums saying they're not eating anything yet not loosing weight it always turns out that there are some high calorie items the are not accounting for in their daily diet. Often alchohol and other drink (juice, milk, shakes etc.) aren't taken into account. Equally, you'd be surprised at how many calories there are in breakfast cereals and some small 'snack' foods - however healthy they may claim to be.

The Atkins diet largely works by convincing your body that it's full - the human body is more easily satisfied on high protein foods than high carbohydrate foods. As a consequence, you actually eat less when you're mainly eating meat than when you're mainly eating bread.

A typical male will burn around 1500 - 2000 calories a day. It's higher if you're more active, or particularly overweight. Count up the calories on your food and then try to cut them down by a couple of hundred calories a day. Obviously increasing your exercise levels will have the same effect so long as you don't eat more to compensate.

The Boots website has an excellent calorie counter thingy which helps you keep track of your daily calorie intake. You have to join for a couple of months and keep a proper food diary for a while, but you'll learn a lot about what it is in your diet that is keeping the weight on.

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Maxf said:
Cara Van Man said:
I've lost nearly a stone in a week on the Cambridge Diet.

It's hard, but worth it. Give this a try.

Works on a similar basis (ketosis), but without all the fat intake. All you take in is protien so a lot healthier than the Atkins.

www.cambridgediet.co.uk



Edited by Cara Van Man on Wednesday 10th September 11:47
Just had a look at that - can you just buy it and do it or do you need to do all the other bks?

cambridge-diet.co.uk is the one I looked at.
You have to attend a "consultation" with one of the salespersons counsellors to check you are not bullimic or anorexic (sp?).

After that, they will have your order ready and you can just collect.

I'm going from 15 stone to 13 as my target and am well on the way to completing it within a couple of weeks.

Be aware though, this is a harsh diet that takes willpower.

As a 6ft active bloke, my calorie intake is only about 500cal per day as opposed to 2500 cal per day as a normal intake.

Timmy35

13,014 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Tuna said:
Stuff.
yes exactly.

DWP

1,232 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Swilly said:
Atkins died of a heart-attack.... just so you know !!
No, he died after slipping on an icy pavement and hitting his head on the ground. He did indeed have a heart attack, but well over a year before his death.

ofcorsa

3,546 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Cara Van Man said:
Maxf said:
Cara Van Man said:
I've lost nearly a stone in a week on the Cambridge Diet.

It's hard, but worth it. Give this a try.

Works on a similar basis (ketosis), but without all the fat intake. All you take in is protien so a lot healthier than the Atkins.

www.cambridgediet.co.uk



Edited by Cara Van Man on Wednesday 10th September 11:47
Just had a look at that - can you just buy it and do it or do you need to do all the other bks?

cambridge-diet.co.uk is the one I looked at.
You have to attend a "consultation" with one of the salespersons counsellors to check you are not bullimic or anorexic (sp?).

After that, they will have your order ready and you can just collect.

I'm going from 15 stone to 13 as my target and am well on the way to completing it within a couple of weeks.

Be aware though, this is a harsh diet that takes willpower.

As a 6ft active bloke, my calorie intake is only about 500cal per day as opposed to 2500 cal per day as a normal intake.
So how long do you expect to be living on 500cals a day? and what do you expect to happen once you up your calorie intake?

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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ofcorsa said:
Cara Van Man said:
Maxf said:
Cara Van Man said:
I've lost nearly a stone in a week on the Cambridge Diet.

It's hard, but worth it. Give this a try.

Works on a similar basis (ketosis), but without all the fat intake. All you take in is protien so a lot healthier than the Atkins.

www.cambridgediet.co.uk



Edited by Cara Van Man on Wednesday 10th September 11:47
Just had a look at that - can you just buy it and do it or do you need to do all the other bks?

cambridge-diet.co.uk is the one I looked at.
You have to attend a "consultation" with one of the salespersons counsellors to check you are not bullimic or anorexic (sp?).

After that, they will have your order ready and you can just collect.

I'm going from 15 stone to 13 as my target and am well on the way to completing it within a couple of weeks.

Be aware though, this is a harsh diet that takes willpower.

As a 6ft active bloke, my calorie intake is only about 500cal per day as opposed to 2500 cal per day as a normal intake.
So how long do you expect to be living on 500cals a day? and what do you expect to happen once you up your calorie intake?
I'll slowly increase my intake up to a stable level.

stew-S160

8,021 posts

268 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Swilly said:
Atkins died of a heart-attack.... just so you know !!
from being obese

Yugguy

10,728 posts

265 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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I tried Atkins. I nearly fainted when exercising and my breath smelt like a dog's arse. So fk that. Just cut out carbs after six and do some exercise.

Mr Will

13,719 posts

236 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Tuna said:
Any diet that 'helps' you loose a stone in a week is not a long term diet, just a short term fix. Your body will quickly realise it's being starved and put the brakes on. Not only that, but the moment you start eating normally, it'll pile on the fat in preparation for the next time you choose to starve yourself.

To loose weight and keep it off, you should be aiming for between 1 and 4 pounds a week over a long period, depending how far you are above your ideal body weight.

To loose sensible amounts of weight, the simple answer is to eat less calories each day than you're buring up. You burn calories even when you sit still, so it's just a question of balancing the books. Whenever people post on this (and other) forums saying they're not eating anything yet not loosing weight it always turns out that there are some high calorie items the are not accounting for in their daily diet. Often alchohol and other drink (juice, milk, shakes etc.) aren't taken into account. Equally, you'd be surprised at how many calories there are in breakfast cereals and some small 'snack' foods - however healthy they may claim to be.

The Atkins diet largely works by convincing your body that it's full - the human body is more easily satisfied on high protein foods than high carbohydrate foods. As a consequence, you actually eat less when you're mainly eating meat than when you're mainly eating bread.

A typical male will burn around 1500 - 2000 calories a day. It's higher if you're more active, or particularly overweight. Count up the calories on your food and then try to cut them down by a couple of hundred calories a day. Obviously increasing your exercise levels will have the same effect so long as you don't eat more to compensate.

The Boots website has an excellent calorie counter thingy which helps you keep track of your daily calorie intake. You have to join for a couple of months and keep a proper food diary for a while, but you'll learn a lot about what it is in your diet that is keeping the weight on.
Ahhh... you are talking about that fantastic new 'eat less, move more' diet! hehe

Seriously for a moment though, eating a bit less worked wonderfully for me when I needed to trim a couple of stone. All you need to realise is that hunger is not your body telling you it needs food, it is just your body telling you that your stomach is empty. Be slightly hungry some of the time and you can just watch the weight fall off, try to avoid ever being hungry and it will be a lot more difficult.

mr_spock

3,376 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Register on www.fitday.com and track your food accurately. You're probably going over the carb limit you've set. You'll have to set up some custom food item details as it's US based, but I found it very useful (and not just for Atkins).

AbarthChris

2,259 posts

245 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Cara Van Man said:
As a 6ft active bloke, my calorie intake is only about 500cal per day as opposed to 2500 cal per day as a normal intake.
My god, that can't be healthy.

I am extremely sceptical about this 'diet' bks. Its a simple equation, use more than you put in and you will lose weight.

Eat a healthy balanced diet, and exercise enough so you have a negative calorie intake at the end of each day and you will lose weight.


Dissident Dragon

120 posts

266 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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I lost 7 stone on the Atkins diet (or my slightly amended version - grilling meat instead of frying, not too much cheese etc. as I couldn't stomach the level of fat involved). This was over 18 months and involved regular gym sessions as well.

What the OP is experiencing is very common. The initial weight loss is only water - no fat at all - its just a result of the body using up its glycogen stores and the water loss that accompanies it. The large initial loss acts as a moral booster but cannot be sustained (I lost 13lbs in the first week - although I was very porky). After the first few weeks I settled into a loss of 1-2lbs per week. However, this is not a steady decline. It was not unusual to lose nothing for a week or two and then have a larger loss. It's as if your body adjusts to its new weight, holding on to everything, and then ultimately lets go. Exercise seemed to be the key to ensuring this happened.

The diet suits me (lager and dry white wine did not affect it in my case). I'm still losing a little weight but do not follow the diet strictly. I just avoid eating too many carbs - white bread, white rice etc. are definitely out.

The diet receives much bad press but I was monitored by my doctor for the first 9 months and he was converted to the process - even taking it up himself. My blood pressure is excellent, my cholesterol is low and I'm fighting fit. Had I carried on the way I was going I would now be the size of a house!!!

Timmy35

13,014 posts

228 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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Whilst we're on the subject I can't recommend the 'drink less booze' diet enough. It's a good one because there's an offsetting weight gain to your wallet.

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

281 months

Wednesday 10th September 2008
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AbarthChris said:
Cara Van Man said:
As a 6ft active bloke, my calorie intake is only about 500cal per day as opposed to 2500 cal per day as a normal intake.
My god, that can't be healthy.

I am extremely sceptical about this 'diet' bks. Its a simple equation, use more than you put in and you will lose weight.

Eat a healthy balanced diet, and exercise enough so you have a negative calorie intake at the end of each day and you will lose weight.
I'm only using it as a fast track to get to my target weight. Once there I'll manage my intake.

The trouble is, I'm in a house with 3 kids and have lots of temptation, so couldn't lose any by normal methods.

I'm very active and still wasn't losing any, so I decided it was time to bite the bullet, lose it all then maintain my fighting weight once i got there.

Does that make sense?