Wedge under-bonnet wiring
Wedge under-bonnet wiring
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peaktorque

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241 months

Sunday 14th September 2008
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Still in the process of putting the 'i' back into the 350 (got rid of the Carb's).

The Range Rover EFI system is all fitted and I have re-run the original TVR wiring loom (which had luckily been looped up behind the dash!).

All connectors present and correct. Well except a couple (I think scratchchin )

Just as the loom exits the bulkhead I have three chopped wires, one thick (ish) black one which is 'earth' I believe and two thin black/white wires. I can't find any reference to them or their duty in either the 'bible' or Range Rover Haynes manual. (I have studied the wiring diagrams read)

I also have one other mysterious long black/white wire protruding from the loom by the airflow meter plug.

Strangely I have two wiring connectors sticking out of what I think is the over-run valve, but no wires to plug into them! Or am I missing something?

If you have no idea, but can have a quick look under your bonnet and let me know roughly where they end up, I will be very grateful!

Thanks

James banghead

Jack Valiant

1,894 posts

266 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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I can help with the two wiring connectors by plenem, they are not needed! My 89 350i has them as well (Grey connectors?)yes

Good luck

Chris


Roger McLittriss

493 posts

284 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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peaktorque said:
Still in the process of putting the 'i' back into the 350 (got rid of the Carb's).

The Range Rover EFI system is all fitted and I have re-run the original TVR wiring loom (which had luckily been looped up behind the dash!).

All connectors present and correct. Well except a couple (I think scratchchin )

Just as the loom exits the bulkhead I have three chopped wires, one thick (ish) black one which is 'earth' I believe and two thin black/white wires. I can't find any reference to them or their duty in either the 'bible' or Range Rover Haynes manual. (I have studied the wiring diagrams read)

I also have one other mysterious long black/white wire protruding from the loom by the airflow meter plug.

Strangely I have two wiring connectors sticking out of what I think is the over-run valve, but no wires to plug into them! Or am I missing something?

If you have no idea, but can have a quick look under your bonnet and let me know roughly where they end up, I will be very grateful!

Thanks

James banghead
The long wire from the loom near the airflow meter plug will be the pickup wire that connects to the ignition module to signal the ECU when to inject (needs to be the (-) side of the coil).

The over-run valve has no connectors; do you have a hotwire plenum with the idle stabilisation valve instead?

The thick and two thin wires are all earths for the injection system, they usually go to ring terminals that are secured to a stud on the rear end of the lefthand cylinder head.

HTH smile

peaktorque

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Monday 15th September 2008
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Great!

Just the information I needed smile

Concerning my query with the over-run valve, well, I think I may be wrong.



(sorry about the crap pic.)

This is what I am on about. Two wires and it sits on the O/S of the engine and is vacuum connected.

I have had to take it off to deal with a leaking injector pipe (one thing after another!)

Thanks for help,

James smile

Roger McLittriss

493 posts

284 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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Ah that's easy, don't know why I didn't realise earlier... smile
Serves you right for ripping the injection off a Range Rover wink

That's the vacuum switch that operates the over-run fuel shutoff. It feeds a relay that interrupts the trigger wire from the ignition module (confused yet?!) thereby persuading the ECU that the engine has stopped, so it quits injecting fuel. As I recall, it plugs into a pair of white wires from the injection harness at the back of the engine bay. Your car may or may not have the wires, depending on whether TVR were using Range Rover or SD1 harnesses that day hehe

peaktorque

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Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Roger McLittriss said:
Ah that's easy, don't know why I didn't realise earlier... smile
Serves you right for ripping the injection off a Range Rover wink

That's the vacuum switch that operates the over-run fuel shutoff. It feeds a relay that interrupts the trigger wire from the ignition module (confused yet?!) thereby persuading the ECU that the engine has stopped, so it quits injecting fuel. As I recall, it plugs into a pair of white wires from the injection harness at the back of the engine bay. Your car may or may not have the wires, depending on whether TVR were using Range Rover or SD1 harnesses that day hehe
I see!

No white wires, only the black+white pair I mentioned earlier.

So no over-run shut-off then scratchchin, does that mean lots of popping and banging on the O/R? (at the expense of fuel hehe)


Thanks again!

James


peaktorque

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Wednesday 17th September 2008
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IT RUNS!!! (can't drive it yet as have snapped throttle cable, bald rear tyres biggrin and no MOT!)

Thanks for the assistance chaps!

Just this over-run thing I need to sort-out.

Is it actually needed and if it is what would be the best resolution?

1) Modify my existing SD1 wiring to suit the RR set-up. (as it is newer is it better?)

2) Get an SD1 type o/r valve, mechanical?

3) Live without it.

Thanks

James smile

TVRleigh_BBWR

6,553 posts

243 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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peaktorque said:
Roger McLittriss said:
Ah that's easy, don't know why I didn't realise earlier... smile
Serves you right for ripping the injection off a Range Rover wink

That's the vacuum switch that operates the over-run fuel shutoff. It feeds a relay that interrupts the trigger wire from the ignition module (confused yet?!) thereby persuading the ECU that the engine has stopped, so it quits injecting fuel. As I recall, it plugs into a pair of white wires from the injection harness at the back of the engine bay. Your car may or may not have the wires, depending on whether TVR were using Range Rover or SD1 harnesses that day hehe
I see!

No white wires, only the black+white pair I mentioned earlier.

So no over-run shut-off then scratchchin, does that mean lots of popping and banging on the O/R? (at the expense of fuel hehe)


Thanks again!

James
I have those white black wires and there not connected to anything. 89 400SE.

Roger McLittriss

493 posts

284 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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peaktorque said:
IT RUNS!!! (can't drive it yet as have snapped throttle cable, bald rear tyres biggrin and no MOT!)

Thanks for the assistance chaps!

Just this over-run thing I need to sort-out.

Is it actually needed and if it is what would be the best resolution?

1) Modify my existing SD1 wiring to suit the RR set-up. (as it is newer is it better?)

2) Get an SD1 type o/r valve, mechanical?

3) Live without it.

Thanks

James smile
The over-run valve is the bulbous thing on the back of the plenum chamber. That vacuum switch was, to the best of my knowledge, never fitted to the SD1 or any TVR. Chuck it biggrin (Don't forget to blank the vacuum port that fed it!)

peaktorque

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Thursday 18th September 2008
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I appear to be missing the 'bulbous' thing!

I would like to add that the engine bay is 'work in progress'! wink

Roger McLittriss

493 posts

284 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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You do indeed banghead

Not to worry; if you can find one, simply knock out the blanking plug, position the o/r valve and drill/tap the plenum to suit smile

Or live without it!

peaktorque

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Thursday 18th September 2008
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Roger McLittriss said:
You do indeed banghead

Not to worry; if you can find one, simply knock out the blanking plug, position the o/r valve and drill/tap the plenum to suit smile

Or live without it!
Thanks for your help Roger clap

Now onto my next problem..........