Bucket Seats and Standard Seat Belts

[benny.c]

I'm fitting some bucket seats to my Mustang and was all set to go for a reclining seat - something like the Corbeau Boss below (Corbeau are the only manufacturer who do a subframe for the Mustang). I then got to thinking since this isn't my everyday car a fixed bucket seat may be OK too. But how do these work with a normal seat belt? As most buckets have high sides, I'd have thought the lap part of the seat belt would sit on the seat and not your lap? Or are the sides not that high?

This isn't for trackdays BTW, just after a more supportive seat than the sloppy leather one that's in there at the moment. Cheers for any advice.

[Eduardo de Sousa]

What do you think of this ones.

Misano seats.

£250 for standards and £500 for leather!

Eduardo.

[Eduardo de Sousa]

What do you think of this ones.



Misano seats.

£250 for standards and £500 for leather!

Eduardo.

[benny.c]

Where have you seen them for £250 Eduardo? Just had a quick word with Cobra and it looks like the Cobreau frames I've ordered will fit Cobra seats too

Edited by benny.c on Tuesday 16th September 18:00

[Eduardo de Sousa]

http://www.rsmmotorsport.co.uk/products/productdet...

They look Fantastic!!!!

[GreenV8S]

The recliners should be OK with the seatbelt, but without lateral support for your hips they won't locate you as well as a proper bucket seat. The ideal solution is a bucket seat plus harness, as long as you have got rollover protection.

[tertius]

To answer your original question about the belts - fixed buckets have cutouts in the sides and shoulders to feed the belt through so it sits correctly.

Though I must say there does seem to be quite a variety of opinions out there about which way to thread seat belts.

[GreenV8S]

tertius said:

To answer your original question about the belts - fixed buckets have cutouts in the sides and shoulders to feed the belt through so it sits correctly.

Do you have any in mind that would work with a lap+diagonal? The ones I can think of are all designed for a center fastening lap strap from a harness.

[tertius]

GreenV8S said:

tertius said:

To answer your original question about the belts - fixed buckets have cutouts in the sides and shoulders to feed the belt through so it sits correctly.

Do you have any in mind that would work with a lap+diagonal? The ones I can think of are all designed for a center fastening lap strap from a harness.

Sure look at the pics in this ad: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/455988.htm

You can see the standard 3 point belt feeding through the hole in the side of the seat.

Ditto this one: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/640793.htm (just visible in pic 4)

I can't immediately see why any seat would not work with a standard belt, so ... http://www.gprdirect.com/OnlineShop/Summary.do?c=1...

(BTW I have buckets in my 993 and use both the std belts for road and harneses for track, so I know its fine.)

[GreenV8S]

tertius said:

GreenV8S said:

tertius said:

To answer your original question about the belts - fixed buckets have cutouts in the sides and shoulders to feed the belt through so it sits correctly.

Do you have any in mind that would work with a lap+diagonal? The ones I can think of are all designed for a center fastening lap strap from a harness.

Sure look at the pics in this ad: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/455988.htm

You can see the standard 3 point belt feeding through the hole in the side of the seat.

Ditto this one: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/640793.htm (just visible in pic 4)

I can't immediately see why any seat would not work with a standard belt, so ... http://www.gprdirect.com/OnlineShop/Summary.do?c=1...

(BTW I have buckets in my 993 and use both the std belts for road and harneses for track, so I know its fine.)

As far as I can see from both those adverts, the buckle is on the outside of the seat in both cases. The problem I can see is that you can't put the buckle through the hole in the seat, because that would mean wedging it into the gap between your hip and the inside of the seat. For this to work you'd need care (or a lot of luck) getting the seat belt mounting right relative to the seat position so that the buckle cleared your hip.

[tertius]

GreenV8S said:

tertius said:

GreenV8S said:

tertius said:

To answer your original question about the belts - fixed buckets have cutouts in the sides and shoulders to feed the belt through so it sits correctly.

Do you have any in mind that would work with a lap+diagonal? The ones I can think of are all designed for a center fastening lap strap from a harness.

Sure look at the pics in this ad: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/455988.htm

You can see the standard 3 point belt feeding through the hole in the side of the seat.

Ditto this one: http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/640793.htm (just visible in pic 4)

I can't immediately see why any seat would not work with a standard belt, so ... http://www.gprdirect.com/OnlineShop/Summary.do?c=1...

(BTW I have buckets in my 993 and use both the std belts for road and harneses for track, so I know its fine.)

As far as I can see from both those adverts, the buckle is on the outside of the seat in both cases. The problem I can see is that you can't put the buckle through the hole in the seat, because that would mean wedging it into the gap between your hip and the inside of the seat. For this to work you'd need care (or a lot of luck) getting the seat belt mounting right relative to the seat position so that the buckle cleared your hip.

Ah, I see what you are getting at - I had seat belt buckle mountings made the right length to come from the anchor point through the seat and above my hip - about £20 each.

[chris7676]

I wouldnt say these (pictured) are proper bucket seats, they wont hold your arse in bends most likely...

[benny.c]

Cheers chaps. Threading the belt through the holes in a regular bucket looks like it could be a PITA - I do the occasional wedding with the car (groom & best man) and would have to swap the seats over for this. If I'm having to disconnect the belt too then it all becomes too much hassle.

I think I'll stick with some reclining ones. As I said it's not for trackdays anyway, I just need something more supportive than the sloppy leather seats that are in the car in the moment. My wife has a 325 sport (E90) and something along those lines would be fine in terms of comfort and support.

[DiscoColin]

GreenV8S said:

As far as I can see from both those adverts, the buckle is on the outside of the seat in both cases. The problem I can see is that you can't put the buckle through the hole in the seat, ...

Porsche 996 GT2/3 has the buckle outside and 997 GT3 has it inside, so logically with the right seat and mounting - either way is viable.