Massa to win the F1 championship
Massa to win the F1 championship
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bennno

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15,238 posts

298 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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I just twigged that the final F1 race is a home race for Massa in Brazilidea

Its probably total co-incidence that Raikonnen has gone off the boil and Hamilton cannot pass wind without a drive through penalty.

It does indeed look like it might go to the wire in Brazil

Bennno

sstein

6,249 posts

283 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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I think Mclaren will be favourites in the next race though frown

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Stuart

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Wednesday 17th September 2008
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bennno said:
It does indeed look like it might go to the wire in Brazil
yes Could do if he doesnt wrap it up sooner.

heebeegeetee

30,140 posts

277 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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tomTVR said:
bennno said:
It does indeed look like it might go to the wire in Brazil
yes Could do if he doesnt wrap it up sooner.
He won't be allowed to. That's what the penalty at Spa was for.

CivicMan

2,211 posts

230 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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Bernie wants TV audiences - ipso facto, if the championship is wrapped up before Brazil, the viewers may well not tune in to the last races. The whole thing is rigged so it goes down to the wire.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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The deal was done last year. Jean Todt set his son up by signing Massa on a 3 year deal before he was turfed out by Di Cockazemolo. Because Luca doesn't want to pay the Toad family any more than he has to, he's piled some of the money to Kimi to slow down for a year. If Massa gets his championship then he'll relinquish his Ferrari drive to Kubica or Vettel. You heard it here first wink

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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heebeegeetee said:
tomTVR said:
bennno said:
It does indeed look like it might go to the wire in Brazil
yes Could do if he doesnt wrap it up sooner.
He won't be allowed to. That's what the penalty at Spa was for.
Massa wasnt penalised at spa confused

ETA: because he didnt cut any corners

Edited by tomTVR on Thursday 18th September 14:18

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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He should have been, his last lap was criminally slow rofl

Cara Van Man

29,977 posts

280 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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heebeegeetee said:
tomTVR said:
bennno said:
It does indeed look like it might go to the wire in Brazil
yes Could do if he doesnt wrap it up sooner.
He won't be allowed to. That's what the penalty at Spa was for.
rofl

Subtle.

lewis1

311 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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will you people never drop the whole its rigged stuff?
i guess not.

i hope massa wins it, hes the only driver there that i feel deserves it.
my opinion of course

disco1

1,963 posts

247 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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CivicMan said:
Bernie wants TV audiences - ipso facto, if the championship is wrapped up before Brazil, the viewers may well not tune in to the last races. The whole thing is rigged so it goes down to the wire.
yes

As I mentioned last week, the whole thing is like X factor, a totally manufactured show with the aim of getting lots of viewers in and making money. Bernie and Max have both mentioned many times that the days of a single racer winning everything in sight, year after year are over as it puts viewers off watching. I don't doubt the races are proper racing but the decisions made by FIA and stewards balance things out.

patmahe

5,919 posts

233 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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I would dearly, dearly love to see Massa and Hamilton out of the points in Singapore and Kubica to win it would set up one hell of a finish to the season. If it came down to that I'd be screaming for Kubica.

It is shameful on Raikkonen and Ferrari that Kubica is even close to them in what is clearly an inferior car.

kevin ritson

3,423 posts

256 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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disco1 said:
CivicMan said:
Bernie wants TV audiences - ipso facto, if the championship is wrapped up before Brazil, the viewers may well not tune in to the last races. The whole thing is rigged so it goes down to the wire.
yes

As I mentioned last week, the whole thing is like X factor, a totally manufactured show with the aim of getting lots of viewers in and making money. Bernie and Max have both mentioned many times that the days of a single racer winning everything in sight, year after year are over as it puts viewers off watching. I don't doubt the races are proper racing but the decisions made by FIA and stewards balance things out.
It's also rather odd that they were keen to spice up 'the show' before the yawn years earlier this decade. Just as it is convenient that after all the accusations a 'surprise winner' crops up...and from a country that's no doubt suffering a drop in its F1 audience...

Edited by kevin ritson on Thursday 18th September 16:21

FNG

4,746 posts

253 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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tomTVR said:
heebeegeetee said:
tomTVR said:
bennno said:
It does indeed look like it might go to the wire in Brazil
yes Could do if he doesnt wrap it up sooner.
He won't be allowed to. That's what the penalty at Spa was for.
Massa wasnt penalised at spa confused

ETA: because he didnt cut any corners

Edited by tomTVR on Thursday 18th September 14:18
HBGT means the penalty at Spa was to keep the championship tight and ensure it goes down to the wire.

I'll ignore the second part of your post, if you haven't understood the other side of the argument by now I can only assume you're being deliberately provocative.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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FNG said:
HBGT means the penalty at Spa was to keep the championship tight and ensure it goes down to the wire.
I dont think he was talking about Massa. Meh, ho hum.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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tomTVR said:
FNG said:
HBGT means the penalty at Spa was to keep the championship tight and ensure it goes down to the wire.
I dont think he was talking about Massa. Meh, ho hum.
I'll explain.

He was saying that no one would be allowed to wrap the championship up before the last round, which is why Hamilton was penalised at Spa, so that he couldn't win it before Brazil.

I think he was implying that the FIA will interfere so that anyone can take the title at the last round.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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MrKipling43 said:
tomTVR said:
FNG said:
HBGT means the penalty at Spa was to keep the championship tight and ensure it goes down to the wire.
I dont think he was talking about Massa. Meh, ho hum.
I'll explain.

He was saying that no one would be allowed to wrap the championship up before the last round, which is why Hamilton was penalised at Spa, so that he couldn't win it before Brazil.

I think he was implying that the FIA will interfere so that anyone can take the title at the last round.
I dont think thats what he meant. I sarcastically commented that it could go to Brazil if Massa doesnt beat everyone beforehand. He turned it around to make it sound like i was actually talking about Hamilton - see cara van mans response.

MrKipling43

5,788 posts

245 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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tomTVR said:
I dont think thats what he meant. I sarcastically commented that it could go to Brazil if Massa doesnt beat everyone beforehand. He turned it around to make it sound like i was actually talking about Hamilton - see cara van mans response.
I think you're misinterpreting the remark.

Care to clarify heebeegeetee?

FNG

4,746 posts

253 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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tomTVR said:
FNG said:
HBGT means the penalty at Spa was to keep the championship tight and ensure it goes down to the wire.
I dont think he was talking about Massa. Meh, ho hum.
No. He wasn't. I never said he was.

tomTVR

6,909 posts

270 months

Thursday 18th September 2008
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FNG said:
tomTVR said:
FNG said:
HBGT means the penalty at Spa was to keep the championship tight and ensure it goes down to the wire.
I dont think he was talking about Massa. Meh, ho hum.
No. He wasn't. I never said he was.
Didnt say you said he was wink