Kimi explains what is happening.
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From his personal website:
"At the Italian Grand Prix we had the same problem as before at a couple of other races," he said.
"Under certain circumstances, especially with low temperatures and rain, we've hardly any grip.
"Now it seems it's going to rain at every outstanding race - we had enough in Monza.
"It's not that I've lost my ability to drive in the wet, but when you've no grip, what can you do?
"Things are definitely not going my way. Sometimes it happens but that won't lower my spirits or my determination.
"Nevertheless, I want to win again this season and I will give my best, as usual."
"At the Italian Grand Prix we had the same problem as before at a couple of other races," he said.
"Under certain circumstances, especially with low temperatures and rain, we've hardly any grip.
"Now it seems it's going to rain at every outstanding race - we had enough in Monza.
"It's not that I've lost my ability to drive in the wet, but when you've no grip, what can you do?
"Things are definitely not going my way. Sometimes it happens but that won't lower my spirits or my determination.
"Nevertheless, I want to win again this season and I will give my best, as usual."
Edited by Fivepercent on Friday 19th September 07:40
Interesting article on Bridgestone's tyre compound allocation for all GP's this year:
http://www.f1network.net/main/s107/st131759.htm
Assuming its warm and dry in Singapore, Kimi should find the soft / super soft tyre allocation far more to akin to his driving style and car configuration.
As a huge Kimi fan, its certainly been a frustrating few races.
http://www.f1network.net/main/s107/st131759.htm
Assuming its warm and dry in Singapore, Kimi should find the soft / super soft tyre allocation far more to akin to his driving style and car configuration.
As a huge Kimi fan, its certainly been a frustrating few races.
toomuchbeer said:
Blue Meanie said:
So it's not his fault at all, bless his cotton socks...
No, of course it's not, it's the tarmac, rain, tyres, car, set up, temperature anyone can see that. I mean, had he be racing at the same time as Massa.... oh.. hang on a mo 
Kimi is a whole lot smoother, which obviously doesn't work with these Bridgestones in the cold/wet.
Fivepercent said:
toomuchbeer said:
Blue Meanie said:
So it's not his fault at all, bless his cotton socks...
No, of course it's not, it's the tarmac, rain, tyres, car, set up, temperature anyone can see that. I mean, had he be racing at the same time as Massa.... oh.. hang on a mo Kimi is a whole lot smoother, which obviously doesn't work with these Bridgestones in the cold/wet.
williamp said:
so if the Ferraris are so bad in the wet, should'nt they yield?if a car is approaching them very quickly, and their car has'no grip- ie dangerous- then they should move over
You obviously haven't the faintest concept about motor racing.I suggest you read a few books on the subject before posing here again.
But then isn't this what the Hamilton fans want, everyone to yield as soon as they see the yellow helmet in their mirrors?
This may have worked in the days of Senna. But not now. The current grid is a whole lot better and most of them think they are better than Hamilton. Not that all of them are, of course.
Fivepercent said:
toomuchbeer said:
Blue Meanie said:
So it's not his fault at all, bless his cotton socks...
No, of course it's not, it's the tarmac, rain, tyres, car, set up, temperature anyone can see that. I mean, had he be racing at the same time as Massa.... oh.. hang on a mo Kimi is a whole lot smoother, which obviously doesn't work with these Bridgestones in the cold/wet.
To my mind, all those fastest laps show that there's little wrong with the car. If MS was in it, he'd be pissing this years championship, imo. If Massa can be a few points behind at this stage (ignoring his FIA donated points) i think you can safely say MS would be a damn good few points ahead in the championship.
heebeegeetee said:
Fivepercent said:
toomuchbeer said:
Blue Meanie said:
So it's not his fault at all, bless his cotton socks...
No, of course it's not, it's the tarmac, rain, tyres, car, set up, temperature anyone can see that. I mean, had he be racing at the same time as Massa.... oh.. hang on a mo Kimi is a whole lot smoother, which obviously doesn't work with these Bridgestones in the cold/wet.
To my mind, all those fastest laps show that there's little wrong with the car. If MS was in it, he'd be pissing this years championship, imo. If Massa can be a few points behind at this stage (ignoring his FIA donated points) i think you can safely say MS would be a damn good few points ahead in the championship.
There is only one driver out there who is completely changing his style during a race to keep the tyres in the sweet zone and that is Alonso.
Hamilton certainly isn't. He slides the car about and gets them hot and gripping. Then he keeps sliding the car about till they cook and lose grip. He did it again last Sunday.
Fivepercent said:
heebeegeetee said:
Fivepercent said:
toomuchbeer said:
Blue Meanie said:
So it's not his fault at all, bless his cotton socks...
No, of course it's not, it's the tarmac, rain, tyres, car, set up, temperature anyone can see that. I mean, had he be racing at the same time as Massa.... oh.. hang on a mo Kimi is a whole lot smoother, which obviously doesn't work with these Bridgestones in the cold/wet.
To my mind, all those fastest laps show that there's little wrong with the car. If MS was in it, he'd be pissing this years championship, imo. If Massa can be a few points behind at this stage (ignoring his FIA donated points) i think you can safely say MS would be a damn good few points ahead in the championship.
There is only one driver out there who is completely changing his style during a race to keep the tyres in the sweet zone and that is Alonso.
Hamilton certainly isn't. He slides the car about and gets them hot and gripping. Then he keeps sliding the car about till they cook and lose grip. He did it again last Sunday.
Kimi's performance has got nothing to do with blaming tyres, or whatever he wants to blame. The fact is, he has failed to get the car to his liking, which is not good considering he is the world champion.
Massa has most certainly changed his style (you must be blind to not see it). Massa has done a fantastic job at adapting to the stresses of fighting for a wdc, i've been really impressed by him. He's gone from his performance at Sivlerstone, to being able to actually stay on track at Spa, to finishing ahead of his rivals at Monza. And you reckon he hasn't adapted? You're barmy.
Massa has gone from being regarded as a Sau Paulo taxi driver, to being very close to being wdc. Meantime, Kimi is going the other way.
It was vettel who said "i don't believe in luck, only hard work". I reckon you can apply the same to excuses. Fact is, Kimi doesn't work hard enough.
Fivepercent said:
williamp said:
so if the Ferraris are so bad in the wet, should'nt they yield?if a car is approaching them very quickly, and their car has'no grip- ie dangerous- then they should move over
You obviously haven't the faintest concept about motor racing.I suggest you read a few books on the subject before posing here again.
But then isn't this what the Hamilton fans want, everyone to yield as soon as they see the yellow helmet in their mirrors?
This may have worked in the days of Senna. But not now. The current grid is a whole lot better and most of them think they are better than Hamilton. Not that all of them are, of course.
Where have you heard from LH fans that they want other drivers to let him past? You haven't. It's drivel. Complete tosh.
Get your head around the fact that not everyone who criticises Ferrari or its drivers are de facto McLaren or Hamilton lapdogs influenced by newspaper and ITV coverage. Blinkered doesn't even come close to describing your assumptions of other posters in this forum.
As for not having a clue about motor racing - take a look in the mirror. You didn't even know that Champ cars ran on road circuits - and haven't the class or grace to admit the fact :nod:
Fivepercent said:
FNG said:
As for not having a clue about motor racing - take a look in the mirror. You didn't even know that Champ cars ran on road circuits - and haven't the class or grace to admit the fact :nod:
Of course I did.You don't recognise blatant facetiousness when you see it.
If that was you being facetious can I suggest you signpost it rather better. Otherwise these comedic gems will be so lost in the rest of your drivel that one can only assume it's another statement of uninformed opinion being hastily aired by fivepercent. Again.
VladD said:
heebeegeetee said:
But Massa is right up there in the championship.
Where do we think MS would be, if he was still at it?
I think he'd be at Renault or Toyota.Where do we think MS would be, if he was still at it?
Fivepercent said:
You obviously haven't the faintest concept about motor racing.
I suggest you read a few books on the subject before posing here again.
cough cough... keyboard / coffee interface time! A little aggressive there again 5pc.I suggest you read a few books on the subject before posing here again.
Now I know why most folks on the motorsport forum are confused by some of your comments. So that's where the font of knowledge comes from. There was I thinking that the unbiased wisdom and vitriol for anyone that disagrees with you that you expound was based on being up to your hips in racing for several decades.
Doh, silly me.
Makes mental note to never drive another race car again but buy some books to read
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