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garycat

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5,382 posts

239 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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I think we can agree that to be WDC you have to be a good all-rounder but which drivers have a particular talent that makes them stand out?

Qualifying
- Senna, Trulli, Webber

Rain
- Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton, Alesi

Nursing a broken car home
- Schumacher

Overtaking
- Mansell, Hamilton

VladD

8,196 posts

294 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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I think there was an article in Motorsport a couple of months ago that tried to work out who was the best ever driver in the wet. Their conclusion was that it was Button.

FourWheelDrift

92,279 posts

313 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Reversing through the field
Trulli

Blind optimism
Coulthard

SeeFive

8,353 posts

262 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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VladD said:
I think there was an article in Motorsport a couple of months ago that tried to work out who was the best ever driver in the wet. Their conclusion was that it was Button.
Obviously a theoretical study then rofl

VladD

8,196 posts

294 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Best Actor
Schui. I only base this on hearing someone at Silverstone shout "break a leg" to him.

Best driver in a supporting role.
Rubens.

FourWheelDrift

92,279 posts

313 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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SeeFive said:
VladD said:
I think there was an article in Motorsport a couple of months ago that tried to work out who was the best ever driver in the wet. Their conclusion was that it was Button.
Obviously a theoretical study then rofl
I think it would have been done on most places gained during a race or most people overtaken and for that I wouldn't disagree with their conclusions.

oggs

8,817 posts

283 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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FourWheelDrift said:
Reversing through the field
Trulli

Blind optimism
Coulthard
hehe

SeeFive

8,353 posts

262 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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FourWheelDrift said:
SeeFive said:
VladD said:
I think there was an article in Motorsport a couple of months ago that tried to work out who was the best ever driver in the wet. Their conclusion was that it was Button.
Obviously a theoretical study then rofl
I think it would have been done on most places gained during a race or most people overtaken and for that I wouldn't disagree with their conclusions.
[FIA] redcard unfair advantage, from way back there on the grid, if that's the only criteria he's gotta be favourite [/FIA]

Fivepercent

382 posts

216 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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VladD said:
I think there was an article in Motorsport a couple of months ago that tried to work out who was the best ever driver in the wet. Their conclusion was that it was Button.
He is having trouble in the wet this year because of the Bridgestones.
Button's super smooth driving style does not put enough heat into them to get them gripping in the wet. He is having the same trouble in the wet this year as Kimi and for the same reasons.

VladD

8,196 posts

294 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Fivepercent said:
VladD said:
I think there was an article in Motorsport a couple of months ago that tried to work out who was the best ever driver in the wet. Their conclusion was that it was Button.
He is having trouble in the wet this year because of the Bridgestones.
Button's super smooth driving style does not put enough heat into them to get them gripping in the wet. He is having the same trouble in the wet this year as Kimi and for the same reasons.
I suppose the question is, are Bridgestone going to alter their tyres as a result of these problems. If more teams are having problems with getting the tyres warm than those not it would make a lot of sense.

With only 4 races left though, it's probably not worth the effort this year. I guess we'll have to see what sort of issues people have next year, though I'd suggest that with less downforce, cornering speeds will be down and the problems could potentially be a lot worse.

John D.

20,994 posts

238 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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FourWheelDrift said:
Reversing through the field
Trulli

Blind optimism
Coulthard
rofl




35secToNuvolari

1,016 posts

232 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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I have a feeling that the style issues brought up by drivers, in reference to tyre temperature, is just an excuse. Being able to adapt is part of being worldclass. If the solution were that simple and they were just stubborn about doing it their way, they should be sacked.

entropy

6,441 posts

232 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Fivepercent said:
VladD said:
I think there was an article in Motorsport a couple of months ago that tried to work out who was the best ever driver in the wet. Their conclusion was that it was Button.
He is having trouble in the wet this year because of the Bridgestones.
Button's super smooth driving style does not put enough heat into them to get them gripping in the wet. He is having the same trouble in the wet this year as Kimi and for the same reasons.
Renault has similar problem but you don't see Alonso complaining. He gets the job done - aggressively warms up his front tyres and he almost binned it into the pit wall entry in Spain!

And what about Australia 2006. Everyone struggles with front tyre temperature and yet Alonso carries on with no problem with a Renault supposedly with heavy rear weight bias.

There's no one better than ATM than Alonso when it comes to warming up their car on the reconnaissance lap/SC period.

FourWheelDrift

92,279 posts

313 months

Friday 19th September 2008
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Alonso has been complaining all year even before the season started, he even publicly slated his own team.

He described them as "one of the worst' teams in the top flight."

Murph7355

41,961 posts

285 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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FourWheelDrift said:
Alonso has been complaining all year even before the season started, he even publicly slated his own team.

He described them as "one of the worst' teams in the top flight."
That doesn't make him a poor driver. Just a complete cockpiece.

Blue Meanie

73,668 posts

284 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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35secToNuvolari said:
I have a feeling that the style issues brought up by drivers, in reference to tyre temperature, is just an excuse. Being able to adapt is part of being worldclass. If the solution were that simple and they were just stubborn about doing it their way, they should be sacked.
It's the same for all the drivers... Those that adapt, will do well. Those that only do well in certain conditions, won't do as well...

entropy

6,441 posts

232 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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FourWheelDrift said:
Alonso has been complaining all year even before the season started, he even publicly slated his own team.

He described them as "one of the worst' teams in the top flight."
But that was at the start of the season when he wasn't looking forward to. It's not as if he's called the current car a truck (yet) and given the boot. He's enjoying it a bit more than expected though obviously he doesn't want to turn round and develop the Renault as in previous years.

Whatever you think of him he's still top quality when it comes to driving an F1 car.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

256 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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FourWheelDrift said:
Reversing through the field
Trulli

Blind optimism
Coulthard
hehehehehehe

Tony

Jungles

3,587 posts

250 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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From this season's grid:

Qualifying:
Trulli, Webber

Rain:
Hamilton, Kimi, Sutil, Vettel

Nursing a broken car home:
Kimi

Overtaking:
Hamilton, Massa, Heidfeld

...and some novelty categories...

Best oversteer moments:
Kovalainen, Kubica

Best understeer moments:
Alonso

Outright speed:
Kimi

Driving so fast it breaks the car:
Hamilton, Kimi

Going above the limit and keeping it on the black stuff:
Alonso

Robust defences of the racing line:
Coulthard tongue out

Kamikaze attacks off the racing line:
Alonso

Surviving crashes:
Barrichello, Glock

Causing crashes:
Nakajima

Centrefold man:
Rosberg

Grasping defeat from jaws of victory:
Webber, Kimi, Alonso

Unlucky hex:
Bourdais, Sutil, Vettel

Lucky charm:
Piquet, Vettel

Most improved drivers:
Glock, Piquet, Vettel

Most regressed drivers:
Coulthard, Button, Rosberg

Hehehe... biggrin

Edited by Jungles on Saturday 20th September 12:43

Gold

1,998 posts

234 months

Saturday 20th September 2008
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Jungles said:
From this season's grid:

Qualifying:
Trulli, Webber

Rain:
Hamilton, Kimi, Sutil, Vettel

Nursing a broken car home:
Kimi

Overtaking:
Hamilton, Massa, Heidfeld

...and some novelty categories...

Best oversteer moments:
Kovalainen, Kubica

Best understeer moments:
Alonso

Outright speed:
Kimi

Driving so fast it breaks the car:
Hamilton, Kimi

Going above the limit and keeping it on the black stuff:
Alonso

Robust defences of the racing line:
Coulthard tongue out

Kamikaze attacks off the racing line:
Alonso

Surviving crashes:
Barrichello, Glock

Causing crashes:
Nakajima

Centrefold man:
Rosberg

Grasping defeat from jaws of victory:
Webber, Kimi, Alonso

Unlucky hex:
Bourdais, Sutil, Vettel

Lucky charm:
Piquet, Vettel

Most improved drivers:
Glock, Piquet, Vettel

Most regressed drivers:
Coulthard, Button, Rosberg

Hehehe... biggrin

Edited by Jungles on Saturday 20th September 12:43
Following on:

Biggest difference between teammates:
Vettel, Bourdais

Wooden Spoon Award:
Sutil, Fisichella

Most forgotten:
Barrichello, Fisichella

Most unlucky moment:
Sutil (Monaco GP)

PR Mans Dream:
Hamilton, Vettel, Alonso

PR Mans Nightmare:
Kimi

Best party:
Kimi

James Allen's wet dreams:
Ayrton Senna, Hamilton

Biggest Cock:
James Allen

Worst racing:
Valencia *yawn*

Most divisive moment:
Spa decision

Stupidest Advert:
That Scania (?) manly truck advert

Most annoying sound:
James Allen, That two bars of some rock song in the sony advert