Kids and homework, how the hell....
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...do they do it nowadays.
I wandered into my study earlier to find my 13yr old daughter copy & pasting her homework from Wikipedia (or some such). So I deleted it and told her to do it properly (with research, in her own words, etc...) Went back in later on and there she was, listening to her Ipod, chatting on MSN, sending emails while doing her homework. She then saved it to a memory stick for school.
How things have changed in the last 20 years! To my mind, the most amazing thing of all is not that she did her homework (it looked good when we signed it off) but the kids' ability to multi-task! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!!
I wandered into my study earlier to find my 13yr old daughter copy & pasting her homework from Wikipedia (or some such). So I deleted it and told her to do it properly (with research, in her own words, etc...) Went back in later on and there she was, listening to her Ipod, chatting on MSN, sending emails while doing her homework. She then saved it to a memory stick for school.
How things have changed in the last 20 years! To my mind, the most amazing thing of all is not that she did her homework (it looked good when we signed it off) but the kids' ability to multi-task! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!!
Edited by srebbe64 on Wednesday 24th September 22:26
I have just had this whole routine with my eldest boy.
He cut and paste everything, He was doing Eng Lit and he didn't even read the books he was given as required reading.
I fell out many many times trying to get him to work (like we did in the old days) and he just would not.
In the end he got an A a level(plus two others) and has just gone to Newcastle uni.
Then I thought if the system allows this he would be stupid to work any other way.
If the schools can't provide real books and just keep pointing kids to the internet then its the schools faults and my son worked the system perfectly.
He cut and paste everything, He was doing Eng Lit and he didn't even read the books he was given as required reading.
I fell out many many times trying to get him to work (like we did in the old days) and he just would not.
In the end he got an A a level(plus two others) and has just gone to Newcastle uni.
Then I thought if the system allows this he would be stupid to work any other way.
If the schools can't provide real books and just keep pointing kids to the internet then its the schools faults and my son worked the system perfectly.
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
...at least she's doing some.....mine was copied hurredly en route the next day!
Spoke to an old university lecturer a few weeks ago, he told me that back in the days of handwritten essays, it wasn't at all uncommon to see students writing the assignments whilst standing in the queue to submit them
Symbolica said:
2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
...at least she's doing some.....mine was copied hurredly en route the next day!
Spoke to an old university lecturer a few weeks ago, he told me that back in the days of handwritten essays, it wasn't at all uncommon to see students writing the assignments whilst standing in the queue to submit themsrebbe64 said:
...do they do it nowadays.
I wandered into my study earlier to find my 13yr old daughter copy & pasting her homework from Wikipedia (or some such). So I deleted it and told her to do it properly (with research, in her own words, etc...) Went back in later on and there she was, listening to her Ipod, chatting on MSN, sending emails while doing her homework. She then saved it to a memory stick for school.
How things have changed in the last 20 years! To my mind, the most amazing thing of all is not that she did her homework (it looked good when we signed it off) but the kids' ability to multi-task! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!!
the scary thing is just how shocking a lot of the "american" accuracy really is on that site and just how many people use it as gospel.I wandered into my study earlier to find my 13yr old daughter copy & pasting her homework from Wikipedia (or some such). So I deleted it and told her to do it properly (with research, in her own words, etc...) Went back in later on and there she was, listening to her Ipod, chatting on MSN, sending emails while doing her homework. She then saved it to a memory stick for school.
How things have changed in the last 20 years! To my mind, the most amazing thing of all is not that she did her homework (it looked good when we signed it off) but the kids' ability to multi-task! I don't know whether to laugh or cry!!!
Edited by srebbe64 on Wednesday 24th September 22:26
mark69sheer said:
I have just had this whole routine with my eldest boy.
He cut and paste everything, He was doing Eng Lit and he didn't even read the books he was given as required reading.
I fell out many many times trying to get him to work (like we did in the old days) and he just would not.
In the end he got an A a level(plus two others) and has just gone to Newcastle uni.
Then I thought if the system allows this he would be stupid to work any other way.
If the schools can't provide real books and just keep pointing kids to the internet then its the schools faults and my son worked the system perfectly.
Which explains why 99% of the graduates who apply to work for my companies couldn't find their own arse with a map and both hands.He cut and paste everything, He was doing Eng Lit and he didn't even read the books he was given as required reading.
I fell out many many times trying to get him to work (like we did in the old days) and he just would not.
In the end he got an A a level(plus two others) and has just gone to Newcastle uni.
Then I thought if the system allows this he would be stupid to work any other way.
If the schools can't provide real books and just keep pointing kids to the internet then its the schools faults and my son worked the system perfectly.
BigLepton said:
mark69sheer said:
I have just had this whole routine with my eldest boy.
He cut and paste everything, He was doing Eng Lit and he didn't even read the books he was given as required reading.
I fell out many many times trying to get him to work (like we did in the old days) and he just would not.
In the end he got an A a level(plus two others) and has just gone to Newcastle uni.
Then I thought if the system allows this he would be stupid to work any other way.
If the schools can't provide real books and just keep pointing kids to the internet then its the schools faults and my son worked the system perfectly.
Which explains why 99% of the graduates who apply to work for my companies couldn't find their own arse with a map and both hands.He cut and paste everything, He was doing Eng Lit and he didn't even read the books he was given as required reading.
I fell out many many times trying to get him to work (like we did in the old days) and he just would not.
In the end he got an A a level(plus two others) and has just gone to Newcastle uni.
Then I thought if the system allows this he would be stupid to work any other way.
If the schools can't provide real books and just keep pointing kids to the internet then its the schools faults and my son worked the system perfectly.
Flintstone said:
I taught mine from an early age to paraphrase anything they download twice to ensure that the finished product was in their own words.
That's how I would deal with some boring s
t that I couldn't be arsed with, in the days before the internet. Find a bit about it in some book in the library and more or less just copy it out in slightly different words.I used to get really pissed off with the whole concept of homework. My dad didn't bring stuff home from work with him every night and spend the evening working, so why did I have to do it? If the school thought we needed more time to do the work then they should get rid of PE and Games and RE and all the other academically useless boring s
t they used to waste our time with, and put that time to good use instead.Balmoral Green said:
In my day, using a calculator was considered cheating, now, it's just common sense and normal to use a calculator, why would you work out arithmetic long hand?
For the same reason you might take your test in a manual car even though you intend to buy an automatic?I never use Wiki for my homework, the teachers just KNOW.....the general school of thought is that google it, and then take the info from a few obscure sites that 'surely nobody else has used' so it looks like your own... 
Of course, I have never done that...oh no...that would be bad
And using Facebook, itunes, MSN, the Xbox and doing the homework all at the same time isn't difficult. Kids are used to multi-tasking these days
Of course, I have never done that...oh no...that would be bad
And using Facebook, itunes, MSN, the Xbox and doing the homework all at the same time isn't difficult. Kids are used to multi-tasking these days The internet has completely changed studying over the last 10 years; I did Business degree part-time a few years ago and during the whole 4 year course I only bought 2 books, everything else was researched using the internet. I wonder how schools/universities will be able to regulate how their students study in the future.
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