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Derek Smith

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49,747 posts

277 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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This season's been exciting in the main despite Molsey/FiAsco.

We've had the two main title contenders just one point apart at the start of the 15th race of the season and even now there's just the seven points. More importantly we've had seven different winners, last year four at the end of the season. We've had five different cars on the top step whilst last year there were only two.

You've got to agree that the politics aside, this has been a tremendous season. Mosley/FiAsco have got their work out to ruin this season like they did last.

DSM2

3,624 posts

229 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Derek Smith said:
This season's been exciting in the main despite Molsey/FiAsco.

We've had the two main title contenders just one point apart at the start of the 15th race of the season and even now there's just the seven points. More importantly we've had seven different winners, last year four at the end of the season. We've had five different cars on the top step whilst last year there were only two.

You've got to agree that the politics aside, this has been a tremendous season. Mosley/FiAsco have got their work out to ruin this season like they did last.
Statistically you may be right. For me this has been one of the most disappointing seasons for a long time, totally devalued because the outcome is going to depend on who makes fewer stupid mistakes or breaks fewer of, or benefits more from the manipulation of, the inane set of rules which the busness now operates within.

Oh, for a run of races settled by the best driver/car beating the second best in a close race. I'm getting old but I'm sure it has happened...........


SeeFive

8,353 posts

262 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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I think I would largely agree with you there Derek. Of course, the number of rain affected races at this stage of the season has levelled the field a few times more than normal.

I am really glad to see the lesser teams getting a shot at the podium, and overall, the pre-monza racing spirit seems to have been better than many other seasons. All that is needed now is to reduce the politics, get rid of some of the newer, boring and difficult to overtake circuits, and it should be even better.

CooperS

4,580 posts

248 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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DSM2 said:
Derek Smith said:
This season's been exciting in the main despite Molsey/FiAsco.

We've had the two main title contenders just one point apart at the start of the 15th race of the season and even now there's just the seven points. More importantly we've had seven different winners, last year four at the end of the season. We've had five different cars on the top step whilst last year there were only two.

You've got to agree that the politics aside, this has been a tremendous season. Mosley/FiAsco have got their work out to ruin this season like they did last.
Statistically you may be right. For me this has been one of the most disappointing seasons for a long time, totally devalued because the outcome is going to depend on who makes fewer stupid mistakes or breaks fewer of, or benefits more from the manipulation of, the inane set of rules which the busness now operates within.

Oh, for a run of races settled by the best driver/car beating the second best in a close race. I'm getting old but I'm sure it has happened...........
Hang on isnt that what happens every year? When was this golden year of only winning due to fantastic overtaking by every driver?

Yes the FIA have ruined one race and made stupid mistakes in others... but for me to see the top 4 not always being in the top 4 is great!

mcdjl

5,754 posts

224 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Wasn't Raikonnen 19 points behind at this point last season? By that recokning isn't Kubica up there as a 3rd contender for the title?

DSM2

3,624 posts

229 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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CooperS said:
DSM2 said:
Derek Smith said:
This season's been exciting in the main despite Molsey/FiAsco.

We've had the two main title contenders just one point apart at the start of the 15th race of the season and even now there's just the seven points. More importantly we've had seven different winners, last year four at the end of the season. We've had five different cars on the top step whilst last year there were only two.

You've got to agree that the politics aside, this has been a tremendous season. Mosley/FiAsco have got their work out to ruin this season like they did last.
Statistically you may be right. For me this has been one of the most disappointing seasons for a long time, totally devalued because the outcome is going to depend on who makes fewer stupid mistakes or breaks fewer of, or benefits more from the manipulation of, the inane set of rules which the busness now operates within.

Oh, for a run of races settled by the best driver/car beating the second best in a close race. I'm getting old but I'm sure it has happened...........
Hang on isnt that what happens every year? When was this golden year of only winning due to fantastic overtaking by every driver?

Yes the FIA have ruined one race and made stupid mistakes in others... but for me to see the top 4 not always being in the top 4 is great!
It may be what happens every year, but I think this has been one of the worst.

I didn't allude to a particular year, just wished for a good one and expressed the feeling that I am sure that good close racing has happened in the past.

I wasn't referring to only the FIA's stupid mistakes, but also those of the teams and drivers, of which there has been an unusually high amount.


Murph7355

41,962 posts

285 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Derek Smith said:
...Mosley/FiAsco have got their work out to ruin this season like they did last.
Don't go throwing the gauntlet down. They read these pages you know biggrin

Derek Smith

Original Poster:

49,747 posts

277 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Murph7355 said:
Derek Smith said:
...Mosley/FiAsco have got their work out to ruin this season like they did last.
Don't go throwing the gauntlet down. They read these pages you know biggrin
Come on! I'm a fan of F1. When was the last time Mosley/FiAsco took any notice of a fan?

And even if they did read these pages they seem to take nothing in.

Derek Smith

Original Poster:

49,747 posts

277 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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And, given the degree of criticism he receives on these forums Mosley would have to be sort of masochist to continue to read . . . hold on, I haven't thought this through.

skinny

5,269 posts

264 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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yep - F1 shines through despite crap tilke tracks, FIA inconsistency, and rules which discourage overtaking smile

down a little to a period of relative stability so performance is close between teams, but mostly i think to do with the large number of top notch drivers we have at the moment

stuttgartmetal

8,152 posts

245 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Totally agree Derek.
Both seasons post Schumi have been a revelation.
Last season, right up to the end was rivetting.
This year is edge of the seat stuff also.
Fernando looked the class he is winning yesterday, and I was uplifted to see LH congratulate him in the ante-room just before the award presentation.
All the bad feeling towards Alonso here doesn't take away from the fact that he is superquick, its just disappointing that his past transgressions have ruled him out of the machinery he needs to win his third title.

The Pits

4,290 posts

269 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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stuttgartmetal said:
Totally agree Derek.
Both seasons post Schumi have been a revelation.
Last season, right up to the end was rivetting.
This year is edge of the seat stuff also.
Fernando looked the class he is winning yesterday, and I was uplifted to see LH congratulate him in the ante-room just before the award presentation.
All the bad feeling towards Alonso here doesn't take away from the fact that he is superquick, its just disappointing that his past transgressions have ruled him out of the machinery he needs to win his third title.
oh please!

After his dispicable behaviour last year I was hoping a barren season would teach him a little humility and his fans that his rotten attitude cost him not only the championship last year but also this year as well. Long may the renault be uncompetitive I say because who else would want that petulant, scheming little prima donna in their team? He doesn't deserve another win in F1.

rev-erend

21,619 posts

313 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Personally I think it's been an aweful season.

Politics has ruined the sport - the Mosley / FIA things being a shameful aspect of it all.

All you really need for some great racing is to add water..

mat205125

17,790 posts

242 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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DSM2 said:
Derek Smith said:
This season's been exciting in the main despite Molsey/FiAsco.

We've had the two main title contenders just one point apart at the start of the 15th race of the season and even now there's just the seven points. More importantly we've had seven different winners, last year four at the end of the season. We've had five different cars on the top step whilst last year there were only two.

You've got to agree that the politics aside, this has been a tremendous season. Mosley/FiAsco have got their work out to ruin this season like they did last.
Statistically you may be right. For me this has been one of the most disappointing seasons for a long time, totally devalued because the outcome is going to depend on who makes fewer stupid mistakes or breaks fewer of, or benefits more from the manipulation of, the inane set of rules which the busness now operates within.

Oh, for a run of races settled by the best driver/car beating the second best in a close race. I'm getting old but I'm sure it has happened...........
Agreed.

I've watched F1 since I was able to walk, but find myself watching the races now more out of routine than enjoyment. The sport is run a pair of greedy tyrants, and surrounded by too much controversy and politics.

Whilst I respect his ability, I'm not a Hamilton fan, and therefore the constant arse liking he gets from the UK media and coverage just serves to frustrate and annoy

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

256 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Derek Smith said:
And, given the degree of criticism he receives on these forums Mosley would have to be sort of masochist to continue to read . . . hold on, I haven't thought this through.
hehe

Tony

brayash

262 posts

226 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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The Pits said:
stuttgartmetal said:
Totally agree Derek.
Both seasons post Schumi have been a revelation.
Last season, right up to the end was rivetting.
This year is edge of the seat stuff also.
Fernando looked the class he is winning yesterday, and I was uplifted to see LH congratulate him in the ante-room just before the award presentation.
All the bad feeling towards Alonso here doesn't take away from the fact that he is superquick, its just disappointing that his past transgressions have ruled him out of the machinery he needs to win his third title.
oh please!

After his dispicable behaviour last year I was hoping a barren season would teach him a little humility and his fans that his rotten attitude cost him not only the championship last year but also this year as well. Long may the renault be uncompetitive I say because who else would want that petulant, scheming little prima donna in their team? He doesn't deserve another win in F1.
nono

Any true fan of the sport wouldn't want to see one of the most able and entertaning drivers on the grid have the opportunity to compete... rolleyes

mat205125

17,790 posts

242 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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Tony 1234 said:
Derek Smith said:
And, given the degree of criticism he receives on these forums Mosley would have to be sort of masochist to continue to read . . . hold on, I haven't thought this through.
hehe

Tony
Don't worry, I'm sure his favourites are slightly more, how do we say, specialised!

stuttgartmetal

8,152 posts

245 months

Monday 29th September 2008
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brayash said:
The Pits said:
stuttgartmetal said:
Totally agree Derek.
Both seasons post Schumi have been a revelation.
Last season, right up to the end was rivetting.
This year is edge of the seat stuff also.
Fernando looked the class he is winning yesterday, and I was uplifted to see LH congratulate him in the ante-room just before the award presentation.
All the bad feeling towards Alonso here doesn't take away from the fact that he is superquick, its just disappointing that his past transgressions have ruled him out of the machinery he needs to win his third title.
oh please!

After his dispicable behaviour last year I was hoping a barren season would teach him a little humility and his fans that his rotten attitude cost him not only the championship last year but also this year as well. Long may the renault be uncompetitive I say because who else would want that petulant, scheming little prima donna in their team? He doesn't deserve another win in F1.
nono

Any true fan of the sport wouldn't want to see one of the most able and entertaning drivers on the grid have the opportunity to compete... rolleyes
Absolutely.
For all the trouble he caused last year, he is quick.
He may well have been advised poorly, or sheer testosterone got his "gander up". Frustration may well have been skewing his curve, that and the singlemindedness of a World Champion.
Whatever, he's taken that Renault by the scruff of the neck and shewn it who is boss.

People seem to forget how much Ayrton was hated, yes absolutely hated, before he won his first world title.