Need some new rubber for my Stumpjumper FSR.......
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I need some advice from the bike chaps....
I've got an 06' Stumpjumper FSR fitted with Specialized Enduro 26x2.3 tyres which in all honesty, are a pile of crap.
They provide no grip, support and they gunk up too easily.
So I'm in the market for some new rubber. The absolute max size I'd want to go to is 2.3, but ideally 2.2's due to my frame clearance.
The type of terrain I ride is about 70% hard / soft mud, 30% loose gravel / rocks.
Any ideas what I should be using? My bro-in-law reckons a pair of Maxxis Swapthings would be perfect, but they're 2.35's so I think they're too big for my bike.
Any ideas?
I've got an 06' Stumpjumper FSR fitted with Specialized Enduro 26x2.3 tyres which in all honesty, are a pile of crap.
They provide no grip, support and they gunk up too easily.
So I'm in the market for some new rubber. The absolute max size I'd want to go to is 2.3, but ideally 2.2's due to my frame clearance.
The type of terrain I ride is about 70% hard / soft mud, 30% loose gravel / rocks.
Any ideas what I should be using? My bro-in-law reckons a pair of Maxxis Swapthings would be perfect, but they're 2.35's so I think they're too big for my bike.
Any ideas?
Swampthings do what they say on the int - for extreme wet slop riding only. There garabage on rock and hardpack as the tall knobbled fold over.
Go for Maxxis Advantage 2.2's - Not quite as grippy as Highrollers in the wet buy roll much better I've found. I've used a lot of tyres, particularly Maxxis, and these are pretty good. Even better run tubeless!
Go for Maxxis Advantage 2.2's - Not quite as grippy as Highrollers in the wet buy roll much better I've found. I've used a lot of tyres, particularly Maxxis, and these are pretty good. Even better run tubeless!
snotrag said:
Swampthings do what they say on the int - for extreme wet slop riding only. There garabage on rock and hardpack as the tall knobbled fold over.
Go for Maxxis Advantage 2.2's - Not quite as grippy as Highrollers in the wet buy roll much better I've found. I've used a lot of tyres, particularly Maxxis, and these are pretty good. Even better run tubeless!
I've just read the reviews for the Advantage and they say they're great for everything I mentioned but crap on roots. This is something I forgot to mention. The XC trails I do are through a lot of forests and roots are a big problem so the tyre must tackle this....Go for Maxxis Advantage 2.2's - Not quite as grippy as Highrollers in the wet buy roll much better I've found. I've used a lot of tyres, particularly Maxxis, and these are pretty good. Even better run tubeless!
I was also thinking of using Stan's no tubes, but in all honesty, I can't be bothered with that for now. I'd like to replace my rear shock first and then my shifters to XT/XTR before I start messing about with tubeless tyres.
beanbag said:
Just an update....what about Panaracer Fire XC Pro's? (26 x 2.1)
Personally I found them to be good in the dry but not so much in the mud.An alternative is the Panaracer Trailraker, allegedly designed with British conditions in mind. Very tall, widely-spaced tread blocks though, so maybe not the best tyre on hardpack?
Trailrakers are mud tyres, and work well in most soft conditions. However on hard ground (tarmac, rocks, roots) they are truly awful. Still my winter tyre of choise though.
Fire XC Pro is a jack of all trades, master of none. Slow, clogs up and rubbish grip on the edge, snapping away when you least expect it. Try something from the Maxxi's range which are very good (I've recently been using Ignitor's on an XC bike and have been very impressed), or perhaps a set of Schwalbe Nobby Nics.
Fire XC Pro is a jack of all trades, master of none. Slow, clogs up and rubbish grip on the edge, snapping away when you least expect it. Try something from the Maxxi's range which are very good (I've recently been using Ignitor's on an XC bike and have been very impressed), or perhaps a set of Schwalbe Nobby Nics.
JPJ said:
Trailrakers are mud tyres, and work well in most soft conditions. However on hard ground (tarmac, rocks, roots) they are truly awful. Still my winter tyre of choise though.
Fire XC Pro is a jack of all trades, master of none. Slow, clogs up and rubbish grip on the edge, snapping away when you least expect it. Try something from the Maxxi's range which are very good (I've recently been using Ignitor's on an XC bike and have been very impressed), or perhaps a set of Schwalbe Nobby Nics.
If we're talking Maxxis, then how about the Maxxis Medusa Exception Series?Fire XC Pro is a jack of all trades, master of none. Slow, clogs up and rubbish grip on the edge, snapping away when you least expect it. Try something from the Maxxi's range which are very good (I've recently been using Ignitor's on an XC bike and have been very impressed), or perhaps a set of Schwalbe Nobby Nics.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?mod...
Not sure about their "root" abilities, but they seem to cover the rest of my requirements, although I've read they're crap in the dry.
I'm wondering however how good these are on light drop-off's? When I say light, I'm talking about 1.5m max.
I'm running two sets of tires at the moment.
Maxxis Minions 2.35 single ply DH - for shorter rides with more big drops n fun stuff. Loads of grip in the dry, brilliant at high speed on turn in, not toooooo draggy when pedaling and OK in the mud up to a point then clogged.
Kenda Nevegals Tomac 2.1 - for longer XC rides. Roll nice and quick but still plenty of grip because the outside lugs are a softer compound. Almost as wide as the Maxxis but with a lower profile so make the steering that bit more sharp. Haven't ridden them in the mud (yet) but really impressed at the grip vs rolling speed trade-off. Recommended!
Moon
Maxxis Minions 2.35 single ply DH - for shorter rides with more big drops n fun stuff. Loads of grip in the dry, brilliant at high speed on turn in, not toooooo draggy when pedaling and OK in the mud up to a point then clogged.
Kenda Nevegals Tomac 2.1 - for longer XC rides. Roll nice and quick but still plenty of grip because the outside lugs are a softer compound. Almost as wide as the Maxxis but with a lower profile so make the steering that bit more sharp. Haven't ridden them in the mud (yet) but really impressed at the grip vs rolling speed trade-off. Recommended!
Moon
theboymoon said:
beanbag said:
Right, I've made my choice and I've ordered a pair of Kendal Tomac Nevegal Stick E 2.1's from Wiggle.
I can't wait to get them on my bike
Cool, we'll expect a full report...I can't wait to get them on my bike
However, I just need to wait for the wettest, muddiest day I can find....
Gazzab said:
I have a stumpy full suss an 07 model. Have got the original tyre on the front plus a panarcer mud on rear. Is an awful set up for my peak district riding. So have just ordered a kenda blue groove and a nevegal. Hope they feel better.
I've just received my Kenda Nevegals but I doubt I'll try them out until the weekend after next as I'm off on holiday tomorrow Still...on another positive note, I also have a Maxxis Swapthing extra sticky 2.35 for the front on it's way from CRC. Let's see if the order doesn't take 12 weeks like my last items from them....
Gazzab said:
I have always gone for mud tyres on the rear so as to enable me to keep spinning and avoid putting a foot down. Personally not found any advantage to a mud tyre on the front.
If you saw some of the trails I deal which, you would understand why a mud tyre on the front is so essential....especially around this time of the year when the ground stays very wet.The last thing you want is to fire off down a mountain with no grip on the front wheel when you have to hit the brakes!
Either way, I'm going to play with my Kenda's and Maxxis on the front and see how I get on. I was told on bikeradar do use a bigger tyre on the front so you don't slow down so much on the ascent.
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