Patio planning permisson/ stealth tax

[69 coupe]

From today onwards,looks like you need to stump up £150 for pp on a patio/drive, me thinks this is more to do with stopping people digging up there front garden for parking on.
Councils need you to park on the road so they can put you in a paying cpz, and catch everyone else unaware.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1065485/No...

[Mike400]

Ahh but this all ties in with the new policies re driveways and gardens

basically with everybody paving their driveways and gardens, during rainfall more water is draining onto roads and overwhelming the drainage systems, or something.

[Timmy35]

Mike400 said:

Ahh but this all ties in with the new policies re driveways and gardens

basically with everybody paving their driveways and gardens, during rainfall more water is draining onto roads and overwhelming the drainage systems, or something.

Either that or councils just didn't bother to keep the drains clear because they were spending all of the money on Diversity Awareness courses and copies of "An Unforunate Load of bks".

No, of course it couldn't be that could it......it's our fault, naughty little tax paying children.

[mechsympathy]

Timmy35 said:

Either that or councils just didn't bother to keep the drains clear because they were spending all of the money on Diversity Awareness courses and copies of "An Unforunate Load of bks".

No, of course it couldn't be that could it......it's our fault, naughty little tax paying children.

And it's nothing to do with planning departments allowing building on flood plains. The clue is in the name fools!

[King Herald]

All our semi's drains go into a soakaway in the back yard, as do our neighbours roof drainings.

I still have to pay for surface water removal in our water bill though!

So they can get stuffed if they think I'll ever pay £150 to apply for anything.

[pimpin gimp]

Mike400 said:

Ahh but this all ties in with the new policies re driveways and gardens

basically with everybody paving their driveways and gardens, during rainfall more water is draining onto roads and overwhelming the drainage systems, or something.

They haven't been designed properly if they drain onto highways.

I'd get shot if I tried to drain any of our developments onto highways land, likewise developers don't like me designing their storm systems to cope with highways run-off.

[King Herald]

pimpin gimp said:

Mike400 said:

Ahh but this all ties in with the new policies re driveways and gardens

basically with everybody paving their driveways and gardens, during rainfall more water is draining onto roads and overwhelming the drainage systems, or something.

They haven't been designed properly if they drain onto highways.

I'd get shot if I tried to drain any of our developments onto highways land, likewise developers don't like me designing their storm systems to cope with highways run-off.

So the highways drains go into a different main drain than the household surface water drains? Just how many different types of drains do we have running underground?

[me2]

King Herald said:

All our semi's drains go into a soakaway in the back yard, as do our neighbours roof drainings.

I still have to pay for surface water removal in our water bill though!

So they can get stuffed if they think I'll ever pay £150 to apply for anything.

If you do not drain surface water into the foul water drains, i.e all into soakaways, inform your water company, they will then reduce your water bills by £25 [Yorkshire water do anyway]

[Jimbo.]

mechsympathy said:

Timmy35 said:

Either that or councils just didn't bother to keep the drains clear because they were spending all of the money on Diversity Awareness courses and copies of "An Unforunate Load of bks".

No, of course it couldn't be that could it......it's our fault, naughty little tax paying children.

And it's nothing to do with planning departments allowing building on flood plains. The clue is in the name fools!

Floodplains relate to rivers. The kind of flooding being referred to here is sewer/surface water flooding, which occurs when too great a volume of runoff overwhelms the (already stretched) urban drainage system, and can happen anywhere. Glasgow in 2002, f' instance.

Edited by Jimbo. on Wednesday 1st October 18:04

[Jimbo.]

King Herald said:

pimpin gimp said:

Mike400 said:

Ahh but this all ties in with the new policies re driveways and gardens

basically with everybody paving their driveways and gardens, during rainfall more water is draining onto roads and overwhelming the drainage systems, or something.

They haven't been designed properly if they drain onto highways.

I'd get shot if I tried to drain any of our developments onto highways land, likewise developers don't like me designing their storm systems to cope with highways run-off.

So the highways drains go into a different main drain than the household surface water drains? Just how many different types of drains do we have running underground?

Three, in a way.
"Foul"/sewage system.
Storm water system.
Combined system, which is a combination of the above two (...) and the oldest type of drainage system.

[anonymous-user]

mechsympathy said:

Timmy35 said:

Either that or councils just didn't bother to keep the drains clear because they were spending all of the money on Diversity Awareness courses and copies of "An Unforunate Load of bks".

No, of course it couldn't be that could it......it's our fault, naughty little tax paying children.

And it's nothing to do with planning departments allowing building on flood plains. The clue is in the name fools!

Cheeky feckers.

[Puff Puff]

Look on the bright side, from today you no longer need planning permission for some house and loft extensions.

[TVR Andy]

King Herald said:

All our semi's drains go into a soakaway in the back yard, as do our neighbours roof drainings.

I still have to pay for surface water removal in our water bill though!

So they can get stuffed if they think I'll ever pay £150 to apply for anything.

Check the small print on your bill. I understand if you have soakaways you can get a rebate.

[Chrisgr31]

TVR Andy said:

King Herald said:

All our semi's drains go into a soakaway in the back yard, as do our neighbours roof drainings.

I still have to pay for surface water removal in our water bill though!

So they can get stuffed if they think I'll ever pay £150 to apply for anything.

Check the small print on your bill. I understand if you have soakaways you can get a rebate.

You can indeed, and I really must apply for it. Mind you its hardly worth having on the scheme of things!

[Scuff_]

King Herald said:

All our semi's drains go into a soakaway in the back yard,

Snigger

[DRIFT KING]

How will they tell when you've done the drive?

Another tax imo.

Soon you'll need planning permission if you want to put a bench in your backgarden etc. etc.

[King Herald]

me2 said:

King Herald said:

All our semi's drains go into a soakaway in the back yard, as do our neighbours roof drainings.

I still have to pay for surface water removal in our water bill though!

So they can get stuffed if they think I'll ever pay £150 to apply for anything.

If you do not drain surface water into the foul water drains, i.e all into soakaways, inform your water company, they will then reduce your water bills by £25 [Yorkshire water do anyway]

Ooh, ooh, will they backdate it 50 years too?

And do I get the rebate for the neighbours roof too?

[mechsympathy]

Jimbo. said:

Floodplains relate to rivers. The kind of flooding being referred to here is sewer/surface water flooding, which occurs when too great a volume of runoff overwhelms the (already stretched) urban drainage system, and can happen anywhere. Glasgow in 2002, f' instance.

I know, but if they didn't build on flood plains water would soak away on them more easily so the flooding wouldn't be as bad and flood plains down river would be less affected. Or something

[Jasandjules]

Govt in stick their nose into your private business and tax you for it shock...

No doubt soon a patio will be a "feature" for which your council tax will increase.

Speaking of which, if council tax is linked to property prices and my house has dropped by 10-15% in the last year, shouldn't I be getting a nice reduction in my CT?!?!?!

[Don]

Thank goodness we just finished putting the new rear garden patio in.

We are putting one out front in a few months. Will we REALLY need Planning Permission?