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Pros and cons of them?
Done some reading on the owners club but time to get the unbiased opinion!
Currently drive a MK2 MR2 which is fun but I need more power and this seems to fit the bill nicely with 4 seats aswell! And scope for 300bhp quite easily from what I've read...
Pros and cons of them?
Done some reading on the owners club but time to get the unbiased opinion!
Currently drive a MK2 MR2 which is fun but I need more power and this seems to fit the bill nicely with 4 seats aswell! And scope for 300bhp quite easily from what I've read...
Pros- going sideways when you want to
Cons- going sideways when you dont want to!!
No only joking, good solid cruiser with the ability to go sideways if wanted, not sure the standard bhp on the english spec s14's but i think it was around the 250 mark, huge power potential with an awful lot of aftermarket parts available, that one should be pushing near enough the 300 mark with a boost controller and a session on the rollers.
very reliable.
P.S. just get an Mr2 turbo!!!
Cons- going sideways when you dont want to!!
No only joking, good solid cruiser with the ability to go sideways if wanted, not sure the standard bhp on the english spec s14's but i think it was around the 250 mark, huge power potential with an awful lot of aftermarket parts available, that one should be pushing near enough the 300 mark with a boost controller and a session on the rollers.
very reliable.
P.S. just get an Mr2 turbo!!!
mr2-turbo-gar said:
Pros- going sideways when you want to
Cons- going sideways when you dont want to!!
No only joking, good solid cruiser with the ability to go sideways if wanted, not sure the standard bhp on the english spec s14's but i think it was around the 250 mark, huge power potential with an awful lot of aftermarket parts available, that one should be pushing near enough the 300 mark with a boost controller and a session on the rollers.
very reliable.
P.S. just get an Mr2 turbo!!!
Completely standard form U.K S14 kicks out 197bhp, but as said a handful of parts and 300 is easily achievable. Cons- going sideways when you dont want to!!
No only joking, good solid cruiser with the ability to go sideways if wanted, not sure the standard bhp on the english spec s14's but i think it was around the 250 mark, huge power potential with an awful lot of aftermarket parts available, that one should be pushing near enough the 300 mark with a boost controller and a session on the rollers.
very reliable.
P.S. just get an Mr2 turbo!!!
not an unbiased opinion cos I have owned one for 4 years.
Up side
- They are reliable - no major (expensive) issues unless you start modding and don't know what you are doing.
- easier to work on that MR2
- easily tunable. daily runabout reliable 280bhp for about a grand (brand new bits)
- as someone said there is a multitude of mods, intercoolers, exhausts, up to 356mm 8 pot brake kits, etc - try www.apexperformance.co.uk to see whats around.
- www.sxoc.com is by far the best and most helpful owners club. All the knowledge is in one place not spread across a few sites.
Downside
- Cos its a tourer its suspension is on the softer side. Whilst not ideal for track it is actually quite good for the bumpy moorland roads we have in yorkshire. If your roads are better or you want a more 'performance feel' then new suspension will set you back about £600. If you drop it too low you will need supporting alignement mods.
- People will say to you they like your Skyline, or will say Nissan what?
EDIT - Just seen the advert - IF I was to have my time again I would buy an already stage 1 car - which that is - it also has the Koyo Rad, and has had the suspension sorted KYB and eibacs which are a nice combo for fast road - not as hard as 'coilovers'
No mention of brake upgrades but you could do 330 disks for about £250 I think which would imrpve the braking no end and match the rest of the car.
put the boost up to 15psi and it will be around 270-280 bhp - probably around 250ish at the moment running 12psi.
Up side
- They are reliable - no major (expensive) issues unless you start modding and don't know what you are doing.
- easier to work on that MR2
- easily tunable. daily runabout reliable 280bhp for about a grand (brand new bits)
- as someone said there is a multitude of mods, intercoolers, exhausts, up to 356mm 8 pot brake kits, etc - try www.apexperformance.co.uk to see whats around.
- www.sxoc.com is by far the best and most helpful owners club. All the knowledge is in one place not spread across a few sites.
Downside
- Cos its a tourer its suspension is on the softer side. Whilst not ideal for track it is actually quite good for the bumpy moorland roads we have in yorkshire. If your roads are better or you want a more 'performance feel' then new suspension will set you back about £600. If you drop it too low you will need supporting alignement mods.
- People will say to you they like your Skyline, or will say Nissan what?
EDIT - Just seen the advert - IF I was to have my time again I would buy an already stage 1 car - which that is - it also has the Koyo Rad, and has had the suspension sorted KYB and eibacs which are a nice combo for fast road - not as hard as 'coilovers'
No mention of brake upgrades but you could do 330 disks for about £250 I think which would imrpve the braking no end and match the rest of the car.
put the boost up to 15psi and it will be around 270-280 bhp - probably around 250ish at the moment running 12psi.
Edited by sparkyhx on Saturday 4th October 22:31
Get yourself over to SXOC.co.uk
Fantastic community with loads of answers, guides and cars being sold cheap!
Bang for buck I don't think there's much out there to touch the S14. The S14a even has decent(ish) looks.
Pros:
Connsumate mile cruncher. Good pace, tunable, stealthy, teaches you how to wind on opposite lock, faster than 95% of cars on the road. Cheap and easy to tune. Reliable. I liked the interior. The bucket seats are really kids or short journeys only in the back, although my dog loved to curl up in them.
Cons:
Insurance (grp 18) and fuel (25-28Mpg), addictive and therefore expensive over time once you start tuning. Can catch you out with their handling. By no means sports cars as stock. Getting a bit older now so rust and general wear starting to take hold. Starting to get a drifter image so finding a straight car is getting harder.
I think they are great cars having owned one for 2 years. However, the cost of running it (and tuning it) and the fact I didn't drive it that much made me get rid in the end. I'd happily have another though.
The one you linked seems a bit overpriced to me. People tend to hang on and hang on. You can get a tidy car at stage 1 for £4k or under. Only really special cars or low milage ones go for more around 5k. Avoid autos as they're hard to sell on, unless you get one really cheap. They're still good cars and an auto box suits the character of the car as standard tbh! Don't be scared of miles. They run to well over 100k miles happily. A guy on the forum was running one at 350Bhp on 225,000 miles. DO watch for Intercooler leaks, particularly the standard wheelarch mounted intercooler which seems to be designed to crack, and also turbo gaskets which will need replacing at 80k miles. Check it's been done on any car around that milage, it's a £400 job or £200 in parts to do a proper job yourself.
Otherwise it's just checking standard jap performance car issues: Hpi clear, brakes in good nick, not crashed/stolen recovered, not thrashed and it should be a hoot to drive!
Fantastic community with loads of answers, guides and cars being sold cheap!
Bang for buck I don't think there's much out there to touch the S14. The S14a even has decent(ish) looks.
Pros:
Connsumate mile cruncher. Good pace, tunable, stealthy, teaches you how to wind on opposite lock, faster than 95% of cars on the road. Cheap and easy to tune. Reliable. I liked the interior. The bucket seats are really kids or short journeys only in the back, although my dog loved to curl up in them.
Cons:
Insurance (grp 18) and fuel (25-28Mpg), addictive and therefore expensive over time once you start tuning. Can catch you out with their handling. By no means sports cars as stock. Getting a bit older now so rust and general wear starting to take hold. Starting to get a drifter image so finding a straight car is getting harder.
I think they are great cars having owned one for 2 years. However, the cost of running it (and tuning it) and the fact I didn't drive it that much made me get rid in the end. I'd happily have another though.
The one you linked seems a bit overpriced to me. People tend to hang on and hang on. You can get a tidy car at stage 1 for £4k or under. Only really special cars or low milage ones go for more around 5k. Avoid autos as they're hard to sell on, unless you get one really cheap. They're still good cars and an auto box suits the character of the car as standard tbh! Don't be scared of miles. They run to well over 100k miles happily. A guy on the forum was running one at 350Bhp on 225,000 miles. DO watch for Intercooler leaks, particularly the standard wheelarch mounted intercooler which seems to be designed to crack, and also turbo gaskets which will need replacing at 80k miles. Check it's been done on any car around that milage, it's a £400 job or £200 in parts to do a proper job yourself.
Otherwise it's just checking standard jap performance car issues: Hpi clear, brakes in good nick, not crashed/stolen recovered, not thrashed and it should be a hoot to drive!
As a former owner I would agree with most of the above – they are decently quick, reliable cars. The gearchange on mine was a bit vague, but a short-shift kit would probably have solved it.
As for handling… It’s great fun going sideways at will, but as someone said they also have a tendency to go sideways at moments you could really do without… you have to be very focused on what the back end is doing when it is even slightly damp. That said, they are very sensitive to tyre choice – sxoc.com will help you out there.
Finally, imho avoid the autos – not because the ‘box is a bad one, but because having it change down on you mid-bend in the wet can send the back end all over the place.
As for handling… It’s great fun going sideways at will, but as someone said they also have a tendency to go sideways at moments you could really do without… you have to be very focused on what the back end is doing when it is even slightly damp. That said, they are very sensitive to tyre choice – sxoc.com will help you out there.
Finally, imho avoid the autos – not because the ‘box is a bad one, but because having it change down on you mid-bend in the wet can send the back end all over the place.
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