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Not Pirelli Dragons, but "real" ones.
How come both the Welsh, God bless them, and the Chinese have similar looking Dragons in their mythology. Yet thousands of years ago a Welshman was unlikely to have been to China or vice versa?
And none of the ancient civilisations in between mention them, to my knowledge, Greeks for example, not a dicky bird about Dragons.
Were Dragons real, but only lived in Wales and China?
How come both the Welsh, God bless them, and the Chinese have similar looking Dragons in their mythology. Yet thousands of years ago a Welshman was unlikely to have been to China or vice versa?
And none of the ancient civilisations in between mention them, to my knowledge, Greeks for example, not a dicky bird about Dragons.
Were Dragons real, but only lived in Wales and China?
The dragons originally lived in China, but upon hearing about the beautiful green hills and the abundance of sheep, they decided to emigrate to Wales.
Then one day, a fortune teller told a tale of a fat one eyed scottish t
t who would destroy the UK and so they committed a mass suicide.....or something :P
Then one day, a fortune teller told a tale of a fat one eyed scottish t
t who would destroy the UK and so they committed a mass suicide.....or something :PFourWheelDrift said:
Timmy35 said:
What did King George kill then? In England. Eh.
George never came to England. The story is a Roman Legend.
Now children St George "who was infact a maltese monk who never came to England and certainly never killed a dragon here real or otherwise. By the way Dragons are theoretically impossible...."
humpbackmaniac said:
Not Pirelli Dragons, but "real" ones.
How come both the Welsh, God bless them, and the Chinese have similar looking Dragons in their mythology. Yet thousands of years ago a Welshman was unlikely to have been to China or vice versa?
And none of the ancient civilisations in between mention them, to my knowledge, Greeks for example, not a dicky bird about Dragons.
Were Dragons real, but only lived in Wales and China?
The Greeks had Dragons. Appolo kiled Pytho and Hereacles killed Ladon (a dragon). Most european cultures had Dragons in their mythology.How come both the Welsh, God bless them, and the Chinese have similar looking Dragons in their mythology. Yet thousands of years ago a Welshman was unlikely to have been to China or vice versa?
And none of the ancient civilisations in between mention them, to my knowledge, Greeks for example, not a dicky bird about Dragons.
Were Dragons real, but only lived in Wales and China?
El stovey said:
humpbackmaniac said:
Were Dragons real, but only lived in Wales and China?
The word 'Dragon' is infact derived from an ancient Greek phrase literally tranlsated as "wifes mother"We had them in Scotland too 
From local folklore
"The legend of the dragon that ate the nine maidens of Strathmartine. The story is one of a peasant farmer of Pitempton – about 3 miles from Dundee – who had nine daughters. One summer evening he sent the eldest to a nearby well for water. She did not return and, one by one, he sent her remaining sisters after her.
Eventually, having run out of daughters, he armed himself and set out to see what had happened. At the well he found the mangled remains of his daughters and beside them an enormous serpent.
He fled only to return with a large band of neighbours, among them Martin, the lover of one of the girls. The crowd attacked and the dragon fled first to Baldragon, a marshy area about a quarter of a mile away. It was then chased on about two more miles until Martin attacked it single-handed. The crowd encouraged him with cries of ‘Strike Martin’ (the origin of the name Strathmartine).
Eventually the dragon was killed at Balkello. It is recorded as the last dragon to be killed in Scotland."
Lived here all my life, and only just found out that story
From local folklore
"The legend of the dragon that ate the nine maidens of Strathmartine. The story is one of a peasant farmer of Pitempton – about 3 miles from Dundee – who had nine daughters. One summer evening he sent the eldest to a nearby well for water. She did not return and, one by one, he sent her remaining sisters after her.
Eventually, having run out of daughters, he armed himself and set out to see what had happened. At the well he found the mangled remains of his daughters and beside them an enormous serpent.
He fled only to return with a large band of neighbours, among them Martin, the lover of one of the girls. The crowd attacked and the dragon fled first to Baldragon, a marshy area about a quarter of a mile away. It was then chased on about two more miles until Martin attacked it single-handed. The crowd encouraged him with cries of ‘Strike Martin’ (the origin of the name Strathmartine).
Eventually the dragon was killed at Balkello. It is recorded as the last dragon to be killed in Scotland."
Lived here all my life, and only just found out that story
Poledriver said:
WE had dragons too. At one time there was an English flag depicting the White Dragon of Englnd!
Your right The White Dragon of the English
The White English Dragon Nennius in his “Historia Brittonvm” (9th Century,) relates that the Brythons (ancient Britons) used the Red Dragon as their symbol while fighting the Anglo-Saxons, some of whom used a White Dragon. This parallels the legend of “Llud a Llefelys.” In this legend, Myrddin (Merlin) manages to drug the two fighting dragons (one Red, the other White) who are terrorising Britain. In the end Myrddin tells the King that the two dragons are fated to share the same land and will have to learn to cooperate and live with one another although they will be in opposition to each other. Allegorically, this reflected the medieval situation in Britain as well as in present day.
The Saxon army of Harold Godwinson (Harold II) flew a standard of a White Dragon, which was probably like a windsock. This may explain why the White Dragon of the English only has two legs as they would have been used as part of the attachment to the banner pole. A rear set of legs would have been superfluous. The Bayeux Tapestry shows the White Dragon as Reddish in colour but this is possibly because the makers of the Tapestry possibly wanted to define it. The Saxons flew the White Dragon in 1066 at the Battle of Stamford Bridge and the Battle of Hastings.
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