WAYS OF TACKLING SPEED?
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texyboy

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64 posts

268 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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You know earlier on i asked about a camera i thought might of snapped me - dont know if i will be done yet, anyway - i was talking to my girlfriend about it who said to me in rather uncertain terms that 'if you wernt speeding you wouldnt get nicked' - yeah i know that but then she followed that she had lost a loved one years back due to a speeding motorist and had to identify the body at the morgue, and continued 'perhaps thats the only way that people will realise what speed can do and this will be the only way that will alter peoples minds for good' - myself i cannot see how as a whole the problem of speeding can be stopped. No matter what the police and government do to try to curb speeding motorists the mentality of society on the whole seems to be 'rush-rush-rush' - 'faster, bigger...'where will it all end?????? in the morgue for the unlucky ones.
NUFF SED

cortinaman

3,230 posts

273 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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speed isnt the only factor in accidents.alot of accidents are purely caused by not paying attention to whats going on around you,lack of driver training and panicing when something actually does happen.road conditions,weather,etc are used in blame aswell but you are supposed to take those into consideration whilst you are driving and adjust your driving accordinly but unfortunatly accidents happen and yes people get killed......basicly that's life but ffs dont join the 'its all due to speed' brigade,its a broken record that quite frankly needs to be changed as its been proved not to be the case (7% of accidents are caused solely by speeding,iirc).

i see people happily going on their merry way at 80mph and above and not cause any probs to others but i also see people who sit at 60 in lane 2 causing chaos and a-holes diliberatly causing rolling road blocks because they think its their god-given right to govern everybody else's speed by doing 65 in lane 3 whilst pacing the car in lane 2.innapropriate speed for the conditions need to be sorted,weather its going at 60 in a 30 or going at 50 on a foggy motorway in the middle lane and not moving into lane 1 even though its clear.....not to mention the a-holes that sit in the right hand lane on a dual carrageway just because they are turning right at some point in the future.

anyway im offski - i got work to do

streaky

19,311 posts

269 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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All accidents are caused by people (just as many people are caused by accidents - a little levity for a serious topic).

It is a truism that not paying attention is the ONLY cause of accidents. In particular, paying attention will cause you to adjust your speed to the circumstances ... and I don't mean looking out for the 'scamera vans'. Paying attention enables you to drive within your capabilities at the time. For example, if you are sneezing (eg. with a cold or hay-fever) you should be driving at a speed and a distance from traffic in front that enables you to close your eyes for half a second. Paying attention means looking ahead, to the sides and to the rear, it means scanning your instruments regularly, it means listening to the engine, the road noise, it means checking the weather as you drive along, it means feeling what the car is doing, it means being fully aware of what is happening around you.

Pay attention at all times and the likelihood of your being involved in any accident will be very substantially reduced. Of course there is always the rogue asteriod on a collision course with the M1 ...

Streaky

gh0st

4,693 posts

278 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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texyboy said:
yeah i know that but then she followed that she had lost a loved one years back due to a speeding motorist and had to identify the body at the morgue, NUFF SED


Was it speeding or using an inappropriate speed at the wrong time because of poor driving and judgement?

I doubt they were killed by speeding because you dont automatically kill someone for going 1+ MPH over the limit.

dontlift

9,396 posts

278 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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Didnt they used to leave the wrecks at the side of the road on the german autobahns for significant amounts of time as a reminder to those who were hoofing it.

Dont know if they still do or not.

deltaf

6,806 posts

273 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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Id ditch the bitch.

texyboy

Original Poster:

64 posts

268 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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deltaf said:
Id ditch the bitch.


its ok taking the p*** but how would any of you feel if your parents were killed by someone going too fast oncoming, in the road bend and hitting the car head on...then not being found for 20 hours.
I can see why people are against speeding and dont get me wrong - i'm definitly no saint but nothing more than a victim of the way nearly everyone drives these days. I still think there is more training required for nearly most of the driving population.
question: could you pass your driving test again now?
iv been driving for more than 20 years and to be quite honest it would take some thinking about to do so and thats when you know your being watched, so what happens on the times your getting up tired and going to work, bad weather and your a tad late, etc, reckon you would be able to stick to the speed limits etc. to the letter of the law????? I dont think that many would pass do you? a very high percentage would fail straight away on just not being able to put the bloody fone down for 5 minutes... I tell you its peoples way of life that needs to change and nothing else - speeding, distractions and lack of concentration are all a consequence of todays aggresive and inconsiderate society.
AND I'M NO EXCEPTION

texyboy

Original Poster:

64 posts

268 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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gh0st said:

texyboy said:
yeah i know that but then she followed that she had lost a loved one years back due to a speeding motorist and had to identify the body at the morgue, NUFF SED



Was it speeding or using an inappropriate speed at the wrong time because of poor driving and judgement?

ghost there is no difference in "speeding and using inappropriate speed at the wrong time....." if you cant take corners when you are suppose to your going to fast or not paying attention either way there is not much difference - if you were caught speeding do you automatically say - "i blatently went through the speed camera"? no you didnt see it because you werent paying full attention to the road. Its very rare that you can say that you didnt see the obstacle or whatever in the road because of obstruction by traffic etc, more like its down to driver error

I doubt they were killed by speeding because you dont automatically kill someone for going 1+ MPH over the limit.

centurion07

10,395 posts

267 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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Luckily I've never been in that postion & hopefully never will, but if I read your post right, it wasn't that the other driver was going too fast, it was the fact that he was going too fast FOR THE STRETCH OF ROAD HE WAS ON & HIS POSTION ON THE ROAD that caused the accident. It's not speed that kills, it's the idiots that don't drive within their abilities or to the conditions/circumstances at the time, THAT'S what the non-numpties have an issue with every time we get snapped for doing 5mph over the limit on a perfectly straight, dry piece of dual carriageway etc.

texyboy

Original Poster:

64 posts

268 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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centurion07 said:
Luckily I've never been in that postion & hopefully never will, but if I read your post right, it wasn't that the other driver was going too fast, it was the fact that he was going too fast FOR THE STRETCH OF ROAD HE WAS ON & HIS POSTION ON THE ROAD that caused the accident. It's not speed that kills, it's the idiots that don't drive within their abilities or to the conditions/circumstances at the time, THAT'S what the non-numpties have an issue with every time we get snapped for doing 5mph over the limit on a perfectly straight, dry piece of dual carriageway etc.


you are right...I have been caught speeding before on a motorway which in my opinion is damn stupid...(51 in a 40) M74 IN THE ROADWORKS!!!!!! 40mph????????

anyway...this issue of speeding carries over sometimes to other roads as well you know - have you ever dropped off a motorway on to slower roads and feel as if your crawling? THEN look down to see you are STILL speeding? easily done point being if you speed on a motorway there is a very high chance your gonna do it on any road as well - not tarring everbody with the same brush here but you know what i mean...once a speeder always a speeder....be honest.

206xsi

49,325 posts

268 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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There are currently 40 limits in roadworks also at M1 Northampton and M6 Manchester ship canal bridge...

What's going on - question for the BiB...?

IMHO they are causing queues outside the 40 limit - dangerous...and dangerous bunching too.

madant69

847 posts

267 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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There is a difference between speeding and driving like a tw@t. The problem is it's such a fine line/grey area that we all have to be legislated against. It would be rather complex for the government to assess every single driver based on level of skill and type of car, then give them individual speed limits.

We're legislated against using the tw@t as a benchmark, not the super-de-duper driver I'm sure you all are.

My 17 year old brother-in-law (RIP Chris dude) was killed after the XR2i he and 3 of his friends were in failed to negotiate a bend and hit a wall. All four died incidentally.

And if the drivers parents are reading...no, you shouldn't have bought your son an XR2i the minute he passed his test. And yes, he was driving like a tw@t.

centurion07

10,395 posts

267 months

Friday 26th September 2003
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texyboy said:

you are right...I have been caught speeding before on a motorway which in my opinion is damn stupid...(51 in a 40) M74 IN THE ROADWORKS!!!!!! 40mph????????

anyway...this issue of speeding carries over sometimes to other roads as well you know - have you ever dropped off a motorway on to slower roads and feel as if your crawling? THEN look down to see you are STILL speeding? easily done point being if you speed on a motorway there is a very high chance your gonna do it on any road as well - not tarring everbody with the same brush here but you know what i mean...once a speeder always a speeder....be honest.


I can be totally honest & say quite truthfully I speed everywhere except probably where it's safest which is on the motorway!! (don't like to hear my engine wailing away for prolonged periods!)