Best polish for a black car?.

Best polish for a black car?.

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BLUETHUNDER

Original Poster:

7,881 posts

261 months

Saturday 4th October 2008
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Any ideas fella,s.I am currently using Autoglym ultra deep shine.To be honest its o.k,until the sun hits it.Then you can see all the silicon swirl marks in it.Looking for something better.

waxaholic

374 posts

200 months

Saturday 4th October 2008
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try super resin polish with extra gloss protection on top.
and get yourself some good quality mf clothes.

sensa

141 posts

210 months

Saturday 4th October 2008
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waxaholic said:
try super resin polish with extra gloss protection on top.
and get yourself some good quality mf clothes.
I'd say thats a bit over the top, I'd just wear old clothes you don't mind getting wet... wink


waxaholic

374 posts

200 months

Saturday 4th October 2008
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haha you nutter, thats not what i mean anyhow that,s made me chuckle

BLUETHUNDER

Original Poster:

7,881 posts

261 months

Saturday 4th October 2008
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sensa said:
waxaholic said:
try super resin polish with extra gloss protection on top.
and get yourself some good quality mf clothes.
I'd say thats a bit over the top, I'd just wear old clothes you don't mind getting wet... wink
What about the Terry towling cloths?.I used super resin as well.And found the results the same.

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Depending on how deep the swirls are, you may not be able to mask them totally.
Best masking product is Bilt Hamber Autobalm, but you may want to do some polishing with SRP to remove some of the defects, and make deeper ones more shallow so the AB can mask those.

waxaholic

374 posts

200 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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the car may need abit more attention to gain the desired result,
as for this auto balm stuff i must get some, having tried some bh products
i imagine that the ab will not disapoint on a wellp prepped surface.

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Nope - whether well prep'd or not, the AB will leave you with a cracking finish, but it won't turn a pig's ear into a silk purse. So, the better the prep work, the better the overall appearance.

evolutionvalet

907 posts

221 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Mark,


PM me over on Rebel V8 mate and I'll let you know what you can use and do.....

Kev F

Tanguero

4,535 posts

202 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Must just be me then, but I am distinctly underwhelmed with Auto Balm frown

I used it after claying and despite following directions carefully ended up with a slightly dull finish, which just wouldn't shine well. A wiz round with quick detailer was required afterwards to get anything like an acceptable finish.

I put another coat on a couple of weeks later and again despite thoroughly removing and buffing it had no shine untill polished over with quick detailer.

I was also not very impressed with its ability to mask very fine swirls... Perhaps it just doesn't like my paint!

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Tanguero said:
Must just be me then, but I am distinctly underwhelmed with Auto Balm frown

I used it after claying and despite following directions carefully ended up with a slightly dull finish, which just wouldn't shine well. A wiz round with quick detailer was required afterwards to get anything like an acceptable finish.

I put another coat on a couple of weeks later and again despite thoroughly removing and buffing it had no shine untill polished over with quick detailer.

I was also not very impressed with its ability to mask very fine swirls... Perhaps it just doesn't like my paint!
On the Tuscan?
Wonder if the Reflex paint would be an issue?
Did you apply it thinly?
It has excellent swirl masking ability - strange how you thought otherwise. Did you work it into the paint?
The first layer can be leaned on as it were, with second and third layers just needing a light touch.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

202 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Well its a Cerbera, but yes smile

I did wonder if it was the paint, I don't think it is normal laquer certainly trying to touch up a chip in the clear coat with laquer from a halfrauds rattle can made the existing stuff wrinkle!

I did use thin coats and according to the instructions worked in straight lines.

Bluethunder, if Auto Balm is different on reflex paint you may want to think twice before putting it on your Cerb!

Edited by Tanguero on Tuesday 7th October 13:05

PJ S

10,842 posts

228 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Tanguero said:
Well ist a Cerbera, but yes smile

I did wonder if it was the paint, I don't think it is normal laquer certainly trying to touch up a chip in the clear coat with laquer from a halfrauds rattle can made the existing stuff wrinkle!

I did use thin coats and according to the instructions worked in straight lines.

Bluethunder, if Auto. Balm is different on reflex paint you may want to think twice before putting it on your Cerb!
Of course it is! Don't know, after looking at your profile, why I wrote Tuscan. confused
I'll put it down to auld age! biggrin

Edited by PJ S on Tuesday 7th October 12:08

freerange7

205 posts

189 months

Sunday 2nd November 2008
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Out of the sun is good advice.
I find that most people are applying the product and removing or trying to remove incorrectly.

The product should always go onto the cloth first then the paint work.
The cloth should be folded up leaving you with one polishing surface and the polish poured onto this, the older this surface becomes the better it becomes and the less polish will be used, as most people do not know this Meguires for instance suggest using an applicator pad/sponge.
Product can be applied up and down, round and round or in a figure of 8, read the instructions first.

Removal
Most people will put a lot of effort into "BUFFING" the product off, all they are doing is impregnating the cloth with the polish turning it into a polishing cloth as described above, this results in the user just moving the product around making it harder to remove.
The idea is to gently glide over the surface letting the cloth pick up the excess polish, turning the cloth over as you go.

This applies to "T" cutting as well.

So many people have an opinion and condemn products when they are at fault.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

202 months

Tuesday 4th November 2008
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freerange7 said:
Out of the sun is good advice.
I find that most people are applying the product and removing or trying to remove incorrectly.

The product should always go onto the cloth first then the paint work.
The cloth should be folded up leaving you with one polishing surface and the polish poured onto this, the older this surface becomes the better it becomes and the less polish will be used, as most people do not know this Meguires for instance suggest using an applicator pad/sponge.
Product can be applied up and down, round and round or in a figure of 8, read the instructions first.

Removal
Most people will put a lot of effort into "BUFFING" the product off, all they are doing is impregnating the cloth with the polish turning it into a polishing cloth as described above, this results in the user just moving the product around making it harder to remove.
The idea is to gently glide over the surface letting the cloth pick up the excess polish, turning the cloth over as you go.

This applies to "T" cutting as well.

So many people have an opinion and condemn products when they are at fault.
That's all fairly basic technique. Clearly if I don't get a good result with a particular product despite using it correctly I should keep my mouth shut and accept that I am just incompetent... my mistake.

grand cherokee

2,432 posts

200 months

Wednesday 5th November 2008
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i would always apply polish/wax with a foam applicator pad - far better than a cloth

most people also use too much product - also apply gently in straight lines your not scrubbing the car - all the hard physical work has been done beforehand - your just applying a 'protective' layer!

do one panel at a time

freerange7

205 posts

189 months

Wednesday 5th November 2008
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TANGUERO
In no way was this aimed at you, it was reference the original thread tittle.

Sometimes the "SIMPLE" things are not always common knowledge.

Tanguero

4,535 posts

202 months

Wednesday 5th November 2008
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freerange7 said:
TANGUERO
In no way was this aimed at you, it was reference the original thread tittle.

Sometimes the "SIMPLE" things are not always common knowledge.
Fair enough. I obviously took it the wrong way. Sorry.

Unfortunately despite Autobalm being well respected it doesn't seem to produce great results on my particular paint despite carefull attention to the preparation and technique (and a third try with it). Just to be clear - I am not knocking it as a product, just less than impressed for this particular application.