What's going on here then?
What's going on here then?
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Duke Thrust

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1,680 posts

269 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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From a cold engine, late back from work and the neighbours don't like me as it is...

Smelling VERY rich and going through petrol like you wouldn't believe. 4.5 - is it a duff Lambda?

Need to learn more about this very quickly...



BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

290 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Lambda or a throttle pot,as the range in readings is quite varied.

brogenville

941 posts

231 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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I'll have a go...

The first thing is that the throttles show 26-29 degrees open, but you're revs are only just over a grand. Normally this should be enough to have the ajp revving to high heavens. I would think then that either your throttle pots are badly out of their proper setup, or that there's something physically blocking the intake. I would suspect also that if there is something blocking the inlets, then its on the odd bank (n/s) as that side is showing rich from your lambdas (hence why your adaptives are maxed out trying to lean the mixture down), and your even bank is maxed out trying to richen the mixture (very low lamdba>> lean mixture).

Anyway, it looks as if the sensors are doing their respective jobs, so I would be out there taking the intake apart looking for problems.

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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if youve got one bank full negative and one bank full positive it's 99.999% certain youve got the lambdas plugged in to the wrong bank .. have you had the plugs disconnected or had any work done where a garage might have disconnected them?

Edited by trackcar on Monday 6th October 20:18

trackcar

6,453 posts

256 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Ah replying to my own post .. yes youve just had an engine change by a garage if it's who i think it is!! possible 4.7 back to 4.5? if i've got the right person then yes i bet they've got your lambdas the wrong way around, easy to do .. people look at the O on the lambda and think it means offside,in fact it means odd bank or nearside .. an easy swap if you have thin arms, just swap the plugs over by the starter motor smile

brogenville

941 posts

231 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Hmmmm... I'd probably listen to him ^^^ first!

Duke Thrust

Original Poster:

1,680 posts

269 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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trackcar said:
Ah replying to my own post .. yes youve just had an engine change by a garage if it's who i think it is!! possible 4.7 back to 4.5? if i've got the right person then yes i bet they've got your lambdas the wrong way around, easy to do .. people look at the O on the lambda and think it means offside,in fact it means odd bank or nearside .. an easy swap if you have thin arms, just swap the plugs over by the starter motor smile
Yeah, loooong story there....

Will have a look at that tomorrow, is it worth also having a bash at re-setting the TP's? Cheers Joo

Nickccc

1,682 posts

278 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Max, there is a check you can do without unplugging the lambda's. Try to download the addaptive maps.
If you see one map with all zero's then yes they are back to front.

Duke Thrust

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1,680 posts

269 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Nickccc said:
Max, there is a check you can do without unplugging the lambda's. Try to download the addaptive maps.
If you see one map with all zero's then yes they are back to front.
Hi Nick wavey

I'll give that a go this evening, ta

JensenA

5,671 posts

260 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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What's the story on your engine 'swap' Max? I know part of the story, you must be fuming, and I feel for you. Did you eventually get the 4.2 replaced with a 4.5?

Duke Thrust

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269 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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JensenA said:
What's the story on your engine 'swap' Max? I know part of the story, you must be fuming, and I feel for you. Did you eventually get the 4.2 replaced with a 4.5?
Hi Alan,

Yep, sourced a 4.5 myself and had it put in - to be honest I'm just very pleased to have the car back after a year and a half. Got the 4.5 brakes as well, so those little monkeys will go on shortly too.

It was a bit of a rush to get the block in for one reason and another so the lambdas the wrong way aound could well be the problem. (But a VERY big thanks to Mike Foster for his help)

So much to do on the car, the thing that's really annoying me is the multitude of scratches it seems to have picked up. Am now thinking of a re-spray to black, would love orange but the interior would have to be done too...




Duke Thrust

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269 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Yep, they were the wrong way around, nice one Joo.

Swapped them over, re-set the TP's and cleared the adaptives - running like she should now smile