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jock36

Original Poster:

4 posts

216 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Hi guys, i have Griffith interiors job up'n'coming & being an upholsterer to trade im looking forward to 'having a go'..
The only problem im going to have with it seems to be the carpet, is there such a thing as a carpet-kit ?
Thanx in advance for any info

Cheers
Chris

Loubaruch

1,445 posts

228 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Chris,

I made and fitted carpets last year for my Griffith 500, Never again! what a pain. 27 separate pieces and most need binding. The company that supplied the carpet, felt, binding glue etc. was: Coverdale Carpets:

http://www.carcarpets.co.uk

I found them an excellent firm to deal with, goods sent by return.

After finishing I discovered that they also do carpet kits for TVR's but I understand some of the pieces require a small amount of cutting to fit.

I would certainly chose this route if recarpeting, as by the time I paid a local upholsterer to bind the pieces plus a few mistakes at cutting out, Doing everything myself probably worked out more expensive and a load more hassle.
Have a chat with them, I found them most helpful. One tip, If you buy their spray on glue that works very well dont bother with the solvent for removing overspray , I found it hopeless. White spirit was far more effective and even removed dried glue.

You will have to remove the hood, not a big job if the bolts are not seized and I also took the opportunity to replace seat belt bolts etc. with new. My original carpets were wool and stank to high heaven, I replaced with man made fibre, not as plush but a bit more practical in an open car. Let me know if need anything further.
Paul

jock36

Original Poster:

4 posts

216 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Thanx Paul

When i 1st looked at the carpet i thought to myself ''oh boy'' how on earth do i get that to fit,i understand that it may need to be glued & bound at some stage..

Being an upholsterer i can see that i would have a toughtime getting the carpets to fit around the bends & curves, do the carpet-kits come moulded ? & does the carpet company have any kind of guides or manuals ? I have on loan a Steve Heath(2nd edition)book,but it seems a bit thin on details when it comes to the interiors.

Does anyone know how long it will take to do & what sort of price for the labour ?

P.S. the whole car is to be done(in stages) the dash, the seats, the trim, the hood & all the fiddely bits. I'd best have a look at the link you gave me Paul lol, im full of Q's at this stage.

Thanx again



LordGrover

34,169 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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The previous owner of my precat recarpetted with Coverdale Carpets. I have no idea how long it took him or how fiddly it was but they're top quality carpets and he did a good job. biggrin

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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I'm also looking to replace the carpets in my Griff. Have been in touch with several upholsterers/trimmers but most haven't inspired confidence and prices vary from £450 to almost £1K! A couple also said they'd done a TVR before, but never again. Does anyone have details of exactly what (and how!) has to be removed. Alternatively, any recommendations not too far from Wiltshire?

jock36

Original Poster:

4 posts

216 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Hi again

Most car interiors would be done by an upholsterer/trimmer who specialize in that market, best look for a car/auto/bus trimmers on the net.

Im just your everyday upholsterer who trying to add another string to my bow.. I did work on a 1937 Bently for my former employers, which was a major challenge.. I only did the front & back seats,so carpets are a bit of a newthing.
I would say that 550 would be a fair price to supply the carpets,trims,sundries & labour.. i mean its not even a weeks work !! I hope not anyway lol.

Any kind of feedback on the re-upholstering/carpets/hoods of TVR's would be just dandy.

Thanx again
Chris

WOO5IE

966 posts

227 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Hi Guys

You probably dont ever look on the other side (Chimaera)

This is a link where carpets were fitted on a Chimaera which is I believe is very similar

http://www.jsread.com/tvr/blog.php?page=3&picn...

It may help

hehe

Trev

Loubaruch

1,445 posts

228 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Englishman said:
I'm also looking to replace the carpets in my Griff. Have been in touch with several upholsterers/trimmers but most haven't inspired confidence and prices vary from £450 to almost £1K! A couple also said they'd done a TVR before, but never again. Does anyone have details of exactly what (and how!) has to be removed. Alternatively, any recommendations not too far from Wiltshire?
Fom memory You will have to remove the hood, seats, seatbelts, the central whale tail, disconnect the door pulls from the whale tail, remove heater panel etc. etc. If the whale tail remains in situ the job is a lot more difficult. In other words a real hassle, especially if any bolts are seized, luckily mine were OK. Also you need to be careful removing the old carpet as it tends to also remove the under felt/foam. The foam will most likely need replacing certainly around the rear parcel shelf, if the foam is not perfectly flat the carpet will look very lumpy. To answer Chris's query, all the carpet fitted OK with very little stretching needed around bends, probably because there are so many bits(27)no single piece had to stretch too far. Considering the amount of work involved I would have thought £1000 was not too bad if you deduct £250 for carpets and sundries that leaves £750 labour. I could easily see it taking 3 days i.e 24 hours. That equates to about £31/hour. If a TVR specialist offers to do it for much less I wonder what sort of job they would make? It took me a great deal longer than 3 days but then It was my first time and a few repeats had to be made for bum steers.

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Useful feedback, thanks. Been quoted between £300 and £400 today for a set of ready-made carpets with bindings. The fitters I've spoken to today say about a day to get the old carpet out and another day to fit the new ones. Does that sound about right? BTW, been looking at what needs to come out and the rear hood bolts look the worst - how do you get to the nuts from the boot of the side fixings or are they bonded into the fibreglass? Maybe my hands are just too big to reach.

Edited by Englishman on Tuesday 7th October 17:37

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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No the nuts you get to through the boot, They're not bonded in so try not to drop them as they will fall into an abyss. some piccies here Theres a links page on that website that list some carpet sellers too.

BB

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Unfortunately I seem to have Allen bolts in all 4 positions including those in the position of the pozidrive screws shown in the pictures - they are the ones my hands/arms can't get to. My kids are grown-up now too! Thanks for all the feedback though, I'm going to have a go anyway.

Loubaruch

1,445 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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From memory the back fixings were allen headed bolts and the side ones cross heads (or posidrive). The allen bolts 10mm I recall are a bit fiddly to undo but using some very small mole wrenches in the boot to hold the nuts it was made a lot easier. The side cross heads just screwed into the thick fibreglass.

Its worth renewing the Velcro on the body that secures the hood just behind the door, simply stick it with contact adhesive. You will also need some more Velcro for the carpet sections that fix to each B post (i.e. behind the door to the floor) to allow access for the door motors etc.

I would think a day to remove the carpet and a day to fit was quite reasonable it depends rather on how much work you intend doing beforehand to remove hood etc.

jock36

Original Poster:

4 posts

216 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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hi guys thanx for all the info, im starting to get a feel for the job now (Gulp)lol.

Thanx for all the tips & if you feel the need to post an more info....please do so

Cheers
Chris

HRG

72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Tape an old sheet to the inside of the boot. That way when you drop the nuts (not if! smile) you'll be able to retrieve them. You can blu-tac them onto a spanner when you put them back if you're really cunning... A second pair of hands for that particular part of the job makes it much easier yes

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Have the carpet on order now from Coverdale - and some velcro (thanks Loubaruch). Should arrive in about 2 weeks. All the hood bolts moved so hopefully I won't have an major issues (everything crossed!)

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Hey David, Would love it if you took piccies and kept info so I could host for all to see on TGP. And for reference for any other owner who may take the same route.


BB

Pasco

6,652 posts

258 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Ballistic Banana said:
Hey David, Would love it if you took piccies and kept info so I could host for all to see on TGP. And for reference for any other owner who may take the same route.


BB
The Griffith Pages a Top site bow


..............TGP scratchchin

hehe

Englishman

2,253 posts

240 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Yep was intending to keep a record and return something to this helpful community. Had a Griff in the 90's for about 4 years but getting my hands far dirtier on this one.
(Already a member of TGP BTW)

Edited by Englishman on Thursday 9th October 22:20

Ballistic Banana

14,706 posts

297 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Pasco said:
Ballistic Banana said:
Hey David, Would love it if you took piccies and kept info so I could host for all to see on TGP. And for reference for any other owner who may take the same route.


BB
The Griffith Pages a Top site bow


..............TGP scratchchin

hehe
Yeah dont put that in your search engine...tried it once when I wanted to buy the url tgp.com yikes guess wont see some of you for a while now i have told you that url hehe


@ Englishman... cheers :thumbsup: look forward to seeing how you get on.

BB

HRG

72,863 posts

269 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Teen Tiger? I'll see you in a week biggrin