Calorific Quality of Wine?

[anonymous-user]

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[HundredthIdiot]

Your logic is confused. You are mixing several factors together and making all sorts of weird assumptions about your metabolism.

Obesity is not healthy.

Drinking large amounts of alcohol is not healthy.

If you maintain normal weight whilst drinking large amounts of alcohol, you are exposed to alcohol risks but not obesity risks.

Two bottles of wine in one sitting is 18+ units, which is near the recommended limits for one week. Those limits are based on negligible clinical evidence (as is much of public health education), but presumably the hangover the next morning tells you that you've poisoned yourself.

Edited by HundredthIdiot on Tuesday 7th October 09:22

[captainzep]

anonymous said:

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That's self control for you.

Many's the time I've eaten one of these after the pubs have shut.

[captainzep]

anonymous said:

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You've substantially reduced your risk of diabetes, CHD, stroke, some cancers and a few other nasty things via the exercise and healthy diet.

You've substantially increased the chances of liver disease and a couple of cancers avec le grande drinkment of vino.

In advanced driving terms its like applying COAST without the "Concentration" bit. Sort of.

I'm not judging. I drink too much sometimes and have no intention of dying with 'Champagne in the fridge'. But I know it will increasingly impede liver function if I continue regardles of sub 50min 10k times etc.

Edited by captainzep on Tuesday 7th October 10:07

[HundredthIdiot]

anonymous said:

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How else would the body store the calories? In miniature whisky bottles?

[mechsympathy]

anonymous said:

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Yes, your body will store excess calories as fat, whether they come from fat, complex carbs or simple carbs (like alcohol). If you're active enough you won't get fat, although your liver might take a hammering.

[stackmonkey]

If you're only concerned about the calories, drink dry wine; if you're also concerned about your liver etc, drink less of it.

[steveo29]

unsure about the calorese or stuff like that but i do know.

that you going down the gym AND THEN drinking 2 bottles of wine, your gym work is basically not going to do anything, if anything drinking after working out will ruin your body/muscles as the alchohl will not allow the muscles to heal and they will be fked up from it.


just a fitness freaks tips

[Hedgeman]

The carbohydrates in the wine can be fairly easily converted to fat.

However the alcohol is converted mainly to acetate, and although this won't get converted to fat, what it will do is fuel your body (and thus prevent it burning any fat) until it's burnt off.

[loggo]

With apologies for the 11 year thread resurrection I read this today and was left pondering. I have been drinking around 7 bottles of wine a week since I was 20 and I am now 68. Every year I have a liver function test and it always comes back healthy so far. two questions
Firstly am I living on borrowed time ?
Secondly I note that Alcohol turns to acetate - would this pass out of the body with the morning urine ?

[Imasurv]

Holy thr.... no won’t go there.

I’ve no idea about the answer to your question, but 7 bottles a week over an extended period of time is some going, you must like it more than I do!

I was surprised at the op doing two bottles a night too! Wonder if he still is...he’s still posting so we might find out...

I did laff at the canopes joke too

Edited by Imasurv on Friday 25th October 19:14

[FredAstaire]

A bottle of wine a day. For 48 yrs?

No way.

[RammyMP]

FredAstaire said:

A bottle of wine a day. For 48 yrs?

No way.

My MIL has cut down on the drink but will do a bottle of wine a night (every night) then move on to the brandy. She’s well in to her 70s now.

[Bill]

AIUI (SWMBO being a GP and has recently had an update from a liver specialist...) liver function tests aren't a great predictor of failure. They're good for when your liver can't cope any more, but that's quite late on. She says something like 75% of people diagnosed with cirrhosis have normal LFTs, and 2/3 of people admitted with acute liver failure are dead within a year.

There is now a new fibroscan that's far more accurate, but mainly available privately currently.

[Bill]

And cheerily enough she's added that the liver is a supportive organ so something like a pneumonia could push it over the edge, at which point you're fked.

She can be a bit blunt.

[Teddy Lop]

FredAstaire said:

A bottle of wine a day. For 48 yrs?

No way.

aww bless, it wasn't considered all that much before some beaurocrats plucked some arbitrary numbers out the air and imposed targets on us.

Bottle of wine in and I don't even have a buzz on, need a few stiff whiskys to round it off, and that's not the weekend