The next Lewis Hamilton
The next Lewis Hamilton
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entropy

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6,441 posts

232 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/315184...

Crikey, they pull no punches these days. This time last year on a different forum (can't remember which) there were a half dozen or so agents wanting to know about karting!

marcia1

5,099 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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eek 4 yrs old!Well the father is obviously loaded enough to support his career choice,IT company director.

mikee boy

967 posts

280 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Nick Walker said:
Nick Walker of sponsor Chase-Evans sports management, said: "We think Leonardo will go a long way. He's our future. We're delighted to have discovered this talent."
Just how much management does a 4 year old need?

IMHO management and contracts are ruining most forms of sport. Parasites getting rich off other people's talents and hard work.

Nick Walker said:
"He's our future"
Presumably the OUR relating to HIS company.

RacerMDR

5,582 posts

239 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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i reckon you can train anyone from 4 years old (if they want to do it) and have the money to go a long way in motorsport.

Unfortunately what you can't teach is talent. So the investment may be huge for a limited career. At best you will end up with a Massa rather than a Hamilton. Still, lots of money to be made though!

I guess you can reassess each year, if the kid is winning, you keep going........

team underdog

938 posts

258 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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Management deal means very little, his fathers bank account will determine how far he gets. So, I guess, he'll go a long way!

Racefan_uk

2,935 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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He's four, he can't race in any series for at least four years. He'll be bored of the go-kart by then and his Dad will have been fleeced out of a fortune by the management company!

At least wait until they're old enough to start racing... there's a line somewhere, isn't there?

Murph7355

41,968 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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That photo looks like a promo shot from Child Play 6 - Chucky Gets Pole!

mattikake

5,116 posts

228 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Are pushy parents a form of child abusers? Are they REALLY doing it just for the kid? As much as, say, religious indoctrination, as a random example? wink

Fortunately on BBC news interview this am the kid seems to really enjoy it "I like going fast", it's just a matter of if he keeps his interest and that will be about winning early on.


Edited by mattikake on Thursday 9th October 10:02

mat205125

17,790 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Wasn't he the little vampire kid in Lost Boys

Nurburgsingh

5,538 posts

267 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Thats weird... I ddint think anywhere let under 8's out in karts..

RJB_666

1,677 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Found a little video about it earlier, was going to start a thread but il post the link here. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7662442.stm
Shows another young racer as well, on the same track were Lewis was apparently first spotted.

RJB_666

1,677 posts

224 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Nurburgsingh said:
Thats weird... I ddint think anywhere let under 8's out in karts..
He can't compete in the cadets for another four years as far as i know.

Simon Mason

579 posts

298 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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The whole thing is simply pathetic.

Nurburgsingh

5,538 posts

267 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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RJB_666 said:
Nurburgsingh said:
Thats weird... I ddint think anywhere let under 8's out in karts..
He can't compete in the cadets for another four years as far as i know.
Had a quick search and the youngest allowed on any karting track I looked at was 7.


groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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I wonder how a four year old would fare in a 50mph crash...

In a car, a four year old would still need a child seat/booster cushion to make sure the seatbelt works properly for their height. In a kart, they have no seatbelts - so steering wheel into chest, broken limbs, no head support. Worst case scenario I know, but an adult would be a bit winded, recover OK from the broken bones and have a stiff neck - not so sure a four year old would fare so well.


Potentially irresponsible parenting IMO.

garycat

5,382 posts

239 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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groomi said:
I wonder how a four year old would fare in a 50mph crash...

In a car, a four year old would still need a child seat/booster cushion to make sure the seatbelt works properly for their height. In a kart, they have no seatbelts - so steering wheel into chest, broken limbs, no head support. Worst case scenario I know, but an adult would be a bit winded, recover OK from the broken bones and have a stiff neck - not so sure a four year old would fare so well.


Potentially irresponsible parenting IMO.
True, if you imagine the relative size of the head & neck of a 4 year old and consider that has to support the weight of a helmet with the G-forces of cornering...

Get Karter

1,950 posts

230 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Agree.

The only kart a 4 year old should be in, is one driven by pedals.


Regional

565 posts

250 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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I agree with the sentiments shown here but i'm not so sure I agree with the broken bone recovery and all that.
Kids have a fantastic ability to repair themselves quickly although granted a muscle injury wouldnt help them much in later life.
Seat belts? You wouldnt wanty one in a kart, there is no crumple zone - the impact would go directly through the driver causing them all sorts of damage, believe it or not you actually want to be thrown from a kart on impact, we (the child) hold much less inertia on our own than a 70kg kart plus (in this instance) a 25kg child, they tend to bounce around and get back up again - us bigger folk don't because we hit things harder and with more momentum.

I'm not saying its a good thing karting at 4 but i dont think that particular argument stands up.

Edited by Regional on Friday 10th October 09:18

groomi

9,331 posts

272 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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Regional said:
I agree with the sentiments shown here but i'm not so sure I agree with the broken bone recovery and all that.
Kids have a fantastic ability to repair themselves quickly although granted a muscle injury wouldnt help them much in later life.
Seat belts? You wouldnt wanty one in a kart, there is no crumple zone - the impact would go directly through the driver causing them all sorts of damage, believe it or not you actually want to be thrown from a kart on impact, we (the child) hold much less inertia on our own than a 70kg kart plus (in this instance) a 25kg child, they tend to bounce around and get back up again - us bigger folk don't because we hit things harder and with more momentum.

I'm not saying its a good thing karting at 4 but i dont think that particular argument stands up.

Edited by Regional on Friday 10th October 09:18
Errr, I never said anything about seatbelts in a kart - ofcourse it would be downright dangerous. My comments are regarding a childs ability to withstand the forces of a 50mph crash without all the safety aids required in a modern car.

Have you ever seen a karting crash? People rarely get thrown clear from a kart - they get rammed into the steering wheel, or whipped sideways in the seat. The neck and chest can take a very hard pumelling in this situation.

RacerMDR

5,582 posts

239 months

Friday 10th October 2008
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i agree with that - i've been battered many times in a kart. Particularly ribs and sternum with neck as secondary injury.