Labour will win next next election
Labour will win next next election
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NoelWatson

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11,710 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Reading the papers on the way home tonight, I was faced with the following

"Greedy bankers must pay"

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-235...

and the horrible thought dawned on me that Gordon Brown may be able to get away with this. Every time you hear him talk of the credit crunch he blames America, and as we fall into recession here in the U.K., the scapegoats are being lined up.

Forgotton will be the unprecedented levels of public and personal debt, PFI, public sector waste etc. etc.

I can see this being equivalent to Thatcher's Falklands, and he will sweep to victory at election time.

What can us as individuals do to spread the truth, or will the general population not listen? I am genuinely worried for the future of our country.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Nowt, they will get in as always, too many numptys vote them in every time!

Neil_H

15,418 posts

280 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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If they do, I'm leaving.

MikeyT

18,329 posts

300 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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I thought Thatcher was even stronger after the Falklands - mind you she did have obly Michael Foot's duffle coat to worry about at the polls!

Where Labour's manifesto mentioned nationalising the banks ... err ...



Edited by MikeyT on Thursday 9th October 19:12

Mclovin

1,679 posts

227 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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oh god we are in trouble...so billions and billions really will be spent on a road pricing system to spy on us....

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Yep, and then u can add biometric passports(id cards) that cost you hundreds to purchase in the first place, fking wkers the lot of em!!

MentalSarcasm

6,083 posts

240 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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I might actually cry if that happens.

Naked Man

105 posts

216 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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NoelWatson said:
Reading the papers on the way home tonight, I was faced with the following

"Greedy bankers must pay"

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-235...

and the horrible thought dawned on me that Gordon Brown may be able to get away with this. Every time you hear him talk of the credit crunch he blames America, and as we fall into recession here in the U.K., the scapegoats are being lined up.

Forgotton will be the unprecedented levels of public and personal debt, PFI, public sector waste etc. etc.

I can see this being equivalent to Thatcher's Falklands, and he will sweep to victory at election time.

What can us as individuals do to spread the truth, or will the general population not listen? I am genuinely worried for the future of our country.
Have you ever thought that maybe you're wrong? If the rest of the population don't hate Labour as much as the vocal minority on here do, perhaps it's you that's wrong and the majority are correct? scratchchin Are you sure that you're not blinkered by the fact you class yourself as a motoring fan and because of this you asume that you must hate Labour? after all, the vocal minority on here can't be wrong can they? maybe, just maybe, the vocal minority on here who spew forth hatred of Labour at every available oportunity have got it wrong..... just a thought

  • cue the usual insults from the usual people*

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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NOpe naked, i hate labour because of various reasons, chief amongst them is the fact they are closing my local post office, causing me to have to drive ten miles to get a tax disc! Also, as i am of the age i can remember harold wilson, then maggie etc to today, under labour you normally have less money in your pocket! And whats more to the point, the current administration have given more of our powers in the european union away, which just means this country has become a dumping ground for europes dross, and we have to do what brussels(or wherever is in charge now) says, no matter what. P.S. also witness labour doing sod all about sangatte being closed! and no i wont insult you, you are entitled to your opinion after all!

MikeyT

18,329 posts

300 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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homicide said:
NOpe naked, i hate labour because of various reasons, chief amongst them is the fact they are closing my local post office, causing me to have to drive ten miles to get a tax disc! Also, as i am of the age i can remember harold wilson, then maggie etc to today, under labour you normally have less money in your pocket! And whats more to the point, the current administration have given more of our powers in the european union away, which just means this country has become a dumping ground for europes dross, and we have to do what brussels(or wherever is in charge now) says, no matter what. P.S. also witness labour doing sod all about sangatte being closed! and no i wont insult you, you are entitled to your opinion after all!
Your points are valid and I wouldn't b happy if I lost our local PO, but get it online and save the 10-mile trip?

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Fair point, but until two weeks ago i didnt have t'internet, so had to drive to get it!frown Or four weeks ago, been in the p&p so long time has become a blur!

Edited by homicide on Thursday 9th October 19:39

Naked Man

105 posts

216 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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homicide said:
NOpe naked, i hate labour because of various reasons, chief amongst them is the fact they are closing my local post office, causing me to have to drive ten miles to get a tax disc! Also, as i am of the age i can remember harold wilson, then maggie etc to today, under labour you normally have less money in your pocket! And whats more to the point, the current administration have given more of our powers in the european union away, which just means this country has become a dumping ground for europes dross, and we have to do what brussels(or wherever is in charge now) says, no matter what. P.S. also witness labour doing sod all about sangatte being closed! and no i wont insult you, you are entitled to your opinion after all!
Fair play then, you've got your reasons to dislike Labour smile

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Yep, but i completely understand anyone who likes labour, each to their own and all of thatsmile

Ali G

3,526 posts

311 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Had the same thought myself. However, opposition parties are now quite correctly supporting the gov in order to bolster confidence in the economy. If/when economy is moving in the right direction, would expect the gloves to come off and questions be asked as to how we arrived in the position we are now in. There is plenty of amunition...

NoelWatson

Original Poster:

11,710 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Naked Man said:
NoelWatson said:
Reading the papers on the way home tonight, I was faced with the following

"Greedy bankers must pay"

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-235...

and the horrible thought dawned on me that Gordon Brown may be able to get away with this. Every time you hear him talk of the credit crunch he blames America, and as we fall into recession here in the U.K., the scapegoats are being lined up.

Forgotton will be the unprecedented levels of public and personal debt, PFI, public sector waste etc. etc.

I can see this being equivalent to Thatcher's Falklands, and he will sweep to victory at election time.

What can us as individuals do to spread the truth, or will the general population not listen? I am genuinely worried for the future of our country.
Have you ever thought that maybe you're wrong? If the rest of the population don't hate Labour as much as the vocal minority on here do, perhaps it's you that's wrong and the majority are correct? scratchchin Are you sure that you're not blinkered by the fact you class yourself as a motoring fan and because of this you asume that you must hate Labour? after all, the vocal minority on here can't be wrong can they? maybe, just maybe, the vocal minority on here who spew forth hatred of Labour at every available oportunity have got it wrong..... just a thought

  • cue the usual insults from the usual people*
"Have you ever thought that maybe you're wrong? "

I like to think I have an open mind, so what do you think I am wrong about (the only thing I can think of is that the Tories may be worse)? I think the country is going down the crapper, and I believe that I would feel the same if the Tories had done this to our once great nation.

NoelWatson

Original Poster:

11,710 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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Ali G said:
Had the same thought myself. However, opposition parties are now quite correctly supporting the gov in order to bolster confidence in the economy. If/when economy is moving in the right direction, would expect the gloves to come off and questions be asked as to how we arrived in the position we are now in. There is plenty of amunition...
I really hope you are right, and that the opposition currently feel that it is poor form to attack the Government in times of crisis. If only Vince were a Tory.

Edited by NoelWatson on Thursday 9th October 19:47

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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To be fair, i dont think any of the current major parties in this country are any good. i realise we need someone in charge, but ye gods, that lot!!!frown

Naked Man

105 posts

216 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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I persoanlly think that Charles Kennedy would make a great PM, pity he likes a drink too much

odyssey2200

18,650 posts

238 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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I am not a party political person.
I hate most politicians.

BUT

Every day this government stoops to a new low with the complete crap that it spouts and the laws in introduces.

Labour is dead.

My biggest fear is that Conservative may be just as bad.

turbobloke

117,115 posts

289 months

Thursday 9th October 2008
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odyssey2200 said:
I am not a party political person.
I hate most politicians.

BUT

Every day this government stoops to a new low with the complete crap that it spouts and the laws in introduces.

Labour is dead.

My biggest fear is that Conservative may be just as bad.
Not likely. Labour are not going to win the next election and the country will benefit as a result. The BBC may gloss over Gordon's dithering and uselessness but listen to vox pops even on the beeb's news items, people know the government are incompetent and self-serving. the single thing that would prevent this result, essential for any semblance of national recovery, is that Call Me Dave doesn't shoot himself or his Party in the foot. He seems a skilled politician (both a bad thing and a good thing) so all should be well.