"Pak" it in... Was chip & pin ever safe?!?!
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/art...
If the powers that be had simply invested a few more quid in making the C&P systems use random encryption, this could have been avoided.
One has to wonder though, how someone at the factory could tamper with the units or be unaware of a tampered unit. Apparently a chip takes the details and transmits them to Lahore...
Ok, couple of problems with this... 1: if it's a transmitter using the mobile network - there will be a SIM card of some description, plus antenna hardware, GSM hardware etc - each unit will be traceable even if it's using foreign SIM cards as they'd still have to sign onto the UK network.
2: This amount of hardware would be detectable to anyone with half a brain who decides to look at the insides of the unit (in a manner of "oh, what's that SIM card doing there?".
A non story or just utterly shoddy reporting? C&P needs an overhaul though, random encryption is needed sooner rather than later.
If the powers that be had simply invested a few more quid in making the C&P systems use random encryption, this could have been avoided.
One has to wonder though, how someone at the factory could tamper with the units or be unaware of a tampered unit. Apparently a chip takes the details and transmits them to Lahore...
Ok, couple of problems with this... 1: if it's a transmitter using the mobile network - there will be a SIM card of some description, plus antenna hardware, GSM hardware etc - each unit will be traceable even if it's using foreign SIM cards as they'd still have to sign onto the UK network.
2: This amount of hardware would be detectable to anyone with half a brain who decides to look at the insides of the unit (in a manner of "oh, what's that SIM card doing there?".
A non story or just utterly shoddy reporting? C&P needs an overhaul though, random encryption is needed sooner rather than later.
Depends who is getting burned in the fraud to be honest.
If you draw the money out of a foreign cash machine, its that bank that gets walloped with the loss as it was their machine that was deceived.
Always said C&P was not the solution, but this fraud isn't much to do with C&P as its just another capture device.
If you draw the money out of a foreign cash machine, its that bank that gets walloped with the loss as it was their machine that was deceived.
Always said C&P was not the solution, but this fraud isn't much to do with C&P as its just another capture device.
Frederick said:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/art...
If the powers that be had simply invested a few more quid in making the C&P systems use random encryption, this could have been avoided.
One has to wonder though, how someone at the factory could tamper with the units or be unaware of a tampered unit. Apparently a chip takes the details and transmits them to Lahore...
Ok, couple of problems with this... 1: if it's a transmitter using the mobile network - there will be a SIM card of some description, plus antenna hardware, GSM hardware etc - each unit will be traceable even if it's using foreign SIM cards as they'd still have to sign onto the UK network.
2: This amount of hardware would be detectable to anyone with half a brain who decides to look at the insides of the unit (in a manner of "oh, what's that SIM card doing there?".
A non story or just utterly shoddy reporting? C&P needs an overhaul though, random encryption is needed sooner rather than later.
Couldn't you just get it to connect to a different number through the landline?If the powers that be had simply invested a few more quid in making the C&P systems use random encryption, this could have been avoided.
One has to wonder though, how someone at the factory could tamper with the units or be unaware of a tampered unit. Apparently a chip takes the details and transmits them to Lahore...
Ok, couple of problems with this... 1: if it's a transmitter using the mobile network - there will be a SIM card of some description, plus antenna hardware, GSM hardware etc - each unit will be traceable even if it's using foreign SIM cards as they'd still have to sign onto the UK network.
2: This amount of hardware would be detectable to anyone with half a brain who decides to look at the insides of the unit (in a manner of "oh, what's that SIM card doing there?".
A non story or just utterly shoddy reporting? C&P needs an overhaul though, random encryption is needed sooner rather than later.
steve_amv8 said:
At least one very large UK retailer is now warning staff to beware when C&P readers are changed as the result of incidents where C&P readers have been swaped by engineers who claim to be visiting to fix a reported fault in a unit ...
The one I work for hasn't yet been targetted but is briefing all employees to be on guard for the above scenario.#steve_amv8 said:
At least one very large UK retailer is now warning staff to beware when C&P readers are changed as the result of incidents where C&P readers have been swaped by engineers who claim to be visiting to fix a reported fault in a unit ...
How on earth can an "engineer" swap a unit without the retailer's staff checking that a fault has really been reported ? Sloppy, shoddy, inadequate processes.marshalla said:
steve_amv8 said:
At least one very large UK retailer is now warning staff to beware when C&P readers are changed as the result of incidents where C&P readers have been swaped by engineers who claim to be visiting to fix a reported fault in a unit ...
Sloppy, shoddy, inadequate processes.
steve_amv8 said:
marshalla said:
steve_amv8 said:
At least one very large UK retailer is now warning staff to beware when C&P readers are changed as the result of incidents where C&P readers have been swaped by engineers who claim to be visiting to fix a reported fault in a unit ...
Sloppy, shoddy, inadequate processes.Ah feck it - I'm going to start bartering - anyone want 2 hours of car washing in return for two dozen eggs ?
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