Direct Debit Overpayments
Direct Debit Overpayments
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Original Poster:

3,676 posts

266 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Is it true that if you have overpayed on a direct debit, a company is not legally obliged to refund you any of your overpayments if you request it?


chris.mapey

4,778 posts

297 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Would have thought the Direct Debit guarantee may come into play at some stage.

Have you spoken to your bank?

mouseymousey

2,642 posts

267 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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How can you overpay a direct debit? The company request the money from your bank, so if you've overpaid then you've been over charged. No reason why you wouldn't get it back.




Rags

Original Poster:

3,676 posts

266 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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mouseymousey said:
How can you overpay a direct debit? The company request the money from your bank, so if you've overpaid then you've been over charged. No reason why you wouldn't get it back.
Scenario.

You decide to pay by direct debit for your electricity.

You tell them you live in a house with x rooms, x people etc.

They give an estimated figure, they then take this figure from your account each month.

You overpay, simple.


scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Rags said:
mouseymousey said:
How can you overpay a direct debit? The company request the money from your bank, so if you've overpaid then you've been over charged. No reason why you wouldn't get it back.
Scenario.

You decide to pay by direct debit for your electricity.

You tell them you live in a house with x rooms, x people etc.

They give an estimated figure, they then take this figure from your account each month.

You overpay, simple.
About once a year, the elcetricity people give us a refund.

chris1roll

2,055 posts

274 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Rags said:
mouseymousey said:
How can you overpay a direct debit? The company request the money from your bank, so if you've overpaid then you've been over charged. No reason why you wouldn't get it back.
Scenario.

You decide to pay by direct debit for your electricity.

You tell them you live in a house with x rooms, x people etc.

They give an estimated figure, they then take this figure from your account each month.

You overpay, simple.
Which is exactly why I refuse point blank to pay utilities by direct debit. Make the buggers bill you properly then you can either write them a cheque if its correct, or argue with them if it isn't, with the money still in your pocket.
Sure, you might get it back _eventually_ but why should they earn interest on your money?

LeoSayer

7,838 posts

274 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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chris1roll said:
Which is exactly why I refuse point blank to pay utilities by direct debit. Make the buggers bill you properly then you can either write them a cheque if its correct, or argue with them if it isn't, with the money still in your pocket.
Sure, you might get it back _eventually_ but why should they earn interest on your money?
I think this may be very good advice, I got £373 back from my last gas supplier.

fastka

156 posts

218 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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direct debit is cheaper than paying by cheque once a quarter or similar.
usually you get a lower rate when using direct debit.

anyway, the direct debit guarantee doesn't work in your scenario.
you need to talk to the supplier and agree a smaller debit amount

DaveL485

2,768 posts

227 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Power Companies=Thieves.

Worst area of customer service save for the Mobile Phone companies.

cottonfoo

6,050 posts

240 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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From the way I understand it, the bills are estimates spread across the year, and most people will, after the summer, be in credit (I know both my gas and electric are in credit by a fair amount).

However, as winter comes and you use more energy, that credit should start to decrease as your usage costs more than what you pay each month. They'll need a meter reading to confirm the exact usage though.

BlackMagic *tree

8,786 posts

225 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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My business was paying too much for electricity (by DD).

Received a statment at year end and I/we had overpaid by £1600!
Quick email to the demanding the money back within 7 days.

I still pay by DD but make sure I send them a meter reading every month.

M400 NBL

3,552 posts

242 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Give them a call with your meter readings and ask them how much credit you have.

Then ask them to send you a checque for that amount and arrange a new DD.

It's a pain that they can't just pay the money directly into your account. Instead they take (IIRC) about 10 working days to send a cheque.

andyquantum

13,204 posts

234 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Mine keep telling me they need to install a new meter on bth gas and electric as it just spits out random numbers each time it's read. Book an appointment and they never turn up.

Still paying them £55/month mind