am i in the right...? arguments with people at university...

[E21_Ross]

Hi,

I am currently in halls of residence at uni; the course i'm doing is chiropractic so you can appreciate the amount of work i get (look around 70hours a week or so). one of the residents in my flat is really noisy at very early hours of the morning when coming home throughout a few days a week, i had a word with him saying it was not fair on me and could he please stop doing it. well, earlier this week 2.30am on a tuesday i got awoken by out doorbell ringing constantly for over 2mins; at this point he decided to use his key to get in. he brought 2 other people back who were very noisy (including banging on everyone's door including mine and shouting things). i complained on wednesday about this. saturday night (just gone) saw a similar situation at around a similar time of the morning, i had to get out of bed and tell them to shut up. so, i wrote a formal complain to the resident tutors. earlier today he tried having a go at me about it. this is coming from a guy studying law (although i can't see him staying long...he regularly misses lectures). he asked why i complained, it was a saturday night and noise shouldn't matter. i replied that in the contract for terms of occupancy it says no noise is to be audible outside of the rooms (i.e. in my room i shouldn't be able to hear it) between 11pm and 7am. he said 'yeh but it's saturday night'. i said that doesn't matter because the contract states all days of the week. he said it wasnt really me making the noise it was my friends. i also stated the contract said you are responsible for anyone you bring in the flat (inc. any nuisances they make). he then replied 'have you nothing better to do than to read contracts all your life?' i replied 'that's ironic coming from a law student'. he duly shut up, and i walked out.

so, am i in the right here? i want my sleep!!!

cheers guys.

[fastcarl]

you are quite right to complain,

dont let the inconsiderate tt carry on as he pleases,

hes a thoughless git and deserves some of his own treatment.

take it to the top,
carl

[Callan.T89]

E21_Ross said:

Hi,

I am currently in halls of residence at uni; the course i'm doing is chiropractic so you can appreciate the amount of work i get (look around 70hours a week or so). one of the residents in my flat is really noisy at very early hours of the morning when coming home throughout a few days a week, i had a word with him saying it was not fair on me and could he please stop doing it. well, earlier this week 2.30am on a tuesday i got awoken by out doorbell ringing constantly for over 2mins; at this point he decided to use his key to get in. he brought 2 other people back who were very noisy (including banging on everyone's door including mine and shouting things). i complained on wednesday about this. saturday night (just gone) saw a similar situation at around a similar time of the morning, i had to get out of bed and tell them to shut up. so, i wrote a formal complain to the resident tutors. earlier today he tried having a go at me about it. this is coming from a guy studying law (although i can't see him staying long...he regularly misses lectures). he asked why i complained, it was a saturday night and noise shouldn't matter. i replied that in the contract for terms of occupancy it says no noise is to be audible outside of the rooms (i.e. in my room i shouldn't be able to hear it) between 11pm and 7am. he said 'yeh but it's saturday night'. i said that doesn't matter because the contract states all days of the week. he said it wasnt really me making the noise it was my friends. i also stated the contract said you are responsible for anyone you bring in the flat (inc. any nuisances they make). he then replied 'have you nothing better to do than to read contracts all your life?' i replied 'that's ironic coming from a law student'. he duly shut up, and i walked out.

so, am i in the right here? i want my sleep!!!

cheers guys.

Thats uni' life mate get over it and have a laugh in your first year, in the second year you'll move in with people of your choice so no worries.

Now stop wingeing and have a beer.

Also this should be in another forum.

[rhoran00]

Legally as you've pointed out you're well within your rights to complain to both him and the resident tutor.

Morally/realistically - you're (I presume) a fresher, about a month into your first year. Not being funny but I don't ever remember halls being a quiet place to be unless it was Exam period, even then people needed to let their hair down on a weekend, which was understandable.

[pgilc1]

Theres always one inconsider in every uni house - but its uni halls of residence so its kind of how it is..

In the meantime head to your local boots and buy their soft (not disposable) earplugs. Should help you get some sleep...

Edited by pgilc1 on Wednesday 15th October 21:48

[carmonk]

Reading that now I feel outraged for you, but back at Uni I used to be that guy. Forget that work nonsense and get aholed every night, you'll soon get over it.

[NorthernBoy]

A degree in Chiropractic?

Chiropractic is a made-up "science" that believes diseases are caused by bizarrely unmeasureable "subluxions". It is as believable as horoscopes, so how on earth can you be doing a degree in it?

I do hope that it is not a BSc?

[E21_Ross]

the people on here who say i should get over it etc, i don't think you realise just how much work i have to do. this is officially the hardest course the uni do. it's a stupid amount of work so i do need me sleep, i've been doing 10hours a day 7 days a week. freshers is over, ended 3 weeks ago. i already have 4 bits of c/w.

i have complained to the senior resident tutors and he has a verbal warning, which is what he is annoyed about.

hmmmm

i drive a cooler car than him though

he didn't understand why i didn't go out much at the weekends....it's because i can't or i'll fail the course!

Edited by E21_Ross on Wednesday 15th October 22:01

[E21_Ross]

NorthernBoy said:

A degree in Chiropractic?

Chiropractic is a made-up "science" that believes diseases are caused by bizarrely unmeasureable "subluxions". It is as believable as horoscopes, so how on earth can you be doing a degree in it?

I do hope that it is not a BSc?

No, it's not a BSc, it's a masters degree of science, more than a BSc.

you obviously have no idea what you are talking about then, since the first 2 years are almost identical to medical school, i think it is a science. and research (taken by non biased views) have shown chiropractic to be a far more effective method of treatment than general hospital out-patient treatment methods based on patient feed back among other methods for lower back pain in particular.

thanks for your constructive criticism.

Edited by E21_Ross on Wednesday 15th October 22:04

[rhoran00]

[quote=E21_Ross]
No, it's not a BSc, it's a masters degree of science, more than a BSc.
[quote]

So it's an MSc then (Same as a Bsc with a year tagged on the end)?

Edited by rhoran00 on Wednesday 15th October 22:07

[E21_Ross]

rhoran00 said:

E21_Ross said:

No, it's not a BSc, it's a masters degree of science, more than a BSc.
[quote]

So it's an MSc then (Same as a Bsc with a year tagged on the end)?

Edited by rhoran00 on Wednesday 15th October 22:07

MChiro is the course. a few years ago it was BSc until it was decided the course needed to be an extra year. but an extra year is on top of course...so it's more than a BSc as i stated...correct?

[Herman Toothrot]

E21_Ross said:

Hi,

I am currently in halls of residence at uni; the course i'm doing is chiropractic so you can appreciate the amount of work i get (look around 70hours a week or so). one of the residents in my flat is really noisy at very early hours of the morning when coming home throughout a few days a week, i had a word with him saying it was not fair on me and could he please stop doing it. well, earlier this week 2.30am on a tuesday i got awoken by out doorbell ringing constantly for over 2mins; at this point he decided to use his key to get in. he brought 2 other people back who were very noisy (including banging on everyone's door including mine and shouting things). i complained on wednesday about this. saturday night (just gone) saw a similar situation at around a similar time of the morning, i had to get out of bed and tell them to shut up. so, i wrote a formal complain to the resident tutors. earlier today he tried having a go at me about it. this is coming from a guy studying law (although i can't see him staying long...he regularly misses lectures). he asked why i complained, it was a saturday night and noise shouldn't matter. i replied that in the contract for terms of occupancy it says no noise is to be audible outside of the rooms (i.e. in my room i shouldn't be able to hear it) between 11pm and 7am. he said 'yeh but it's saturday night'. i said that doesn't matter because the contract states all days of the week. he said it wasnt really me making the noise it was my friends. i also stated the contract said you are responsible for anyone you bring in the flat (inc. any nuisances they make). he then replied 'have you nothing better to do than to read contracts all your life?' i replied 'that's ironic coming from a law student'. he duly shut up, and i walked out.

so, am i in the right here? i want my sleep!!!

cheers guys.

Chill out! uni is the time of your life to dick about and have a laugh, if your that fussed about noise in halls get a flat on your own. If you can't handle going out, staying up late, partying, drinking too much etc and getting all your work done in the first year then your going to struggle later p.s. hope your doing a HPC approved course or it won't be worthwhile anyway

Edited by Herman Toothrot on Wednesday 15th October 22:13

[Zeek]

Get your revenge by banging on his door and making loads of noise while he is asleep....at lunchtime!

[g4ry13]

NorthernBoy said:

A degree in Chiropractic?

Chiropractic is a made-up "science" that believes diseases are caused by bizarrely unmeasureable "subluxions". It is as believable as horoscopes, so how on earth can you be doing a degree in it?

I do hope that it is not a BSc?

(Sorry O/T) Where have you been hiding these days?

As for the topic, it's annoying but it's halls and it's never going to be a peaceful haven.

Edited by g4ry13 on Wednesday 15th October 22:15

[rhoran00]

It's your course so you'll know more than me!

Back on topic though, see what becomes of the complaint you put in. He may realise he's being a bit inconsiderate and quieten down a bit. Alternatively it might just make things arkward for you for the rest of the year. Have you got any opinions off other flatmates?

Edited by rhoran00 on Wednesday 15th October 22:16

[Maxf]

E21_Ross said:

although i can't see him staying long...he regularly misses lectures

LOL. Heaven forbid missing some lectures.

Sweet jesus you sound like a right laugh. It is a month into term, you are in halls - get out there and fill your boots! You'll be in a real job soon enough and wednesday nights on the piss will be a distant memory.

Our halls were noisy places - banging, shouting, doors slamming, sex noises (my specialty)... just embrace it!

[Rollin]

carmonk said:

Forget that work nonsense and get aholed every night, you'll soon get over it.

I agree. University is not all about work,work,work.

Get pissed and get laid

Having said that, people like him will eventually get thrown out of the hall. I was.

Edited by Rollin on Wednesday 15th October 22:22

[Maxf]

Rollin said:

carmonk said:

Forget that work nonsense and get aholed every night, you'll soon get over it.

I agree. University is not all about work,work,work.

yep - 1st year = bare minimum of work not to get kicked out
2nd year = lay some foundations (in beer drinking/womanising)
3rd Year = do a bit of work and get a 2:1

[moresauce]

E21_Ross said:

Hi,

I am currently in halls of residence at uni; the course i'm doing is chiropractic

Are you at Bournemouth or Glamorgan?

[NorthernBoy]

E21_Ross said:

NorthernBoy said:

A degree in Chiropractic?

Chiropractic is a made-up "science" that believes diseases are caused by bizarrely unmeasureable "subluxions". It is as believable as horoscopes, so how on earth can you be doing a degree in it?

I do hope that it is not a BSc?

No, it's not a BSc, it's a masters degree of science, more than a BSc.

you obviously have no idea what you are talking about then, since the first 2 years are almost identical to medical school, i think it is a science. and research (taken by non biased views) have shown chiropractic to be a far more effective method of treatment than general hospital out-patient treatment methods based on patient feed back among other methods for lower back pain in particular.

thanks for your constructive criticism.

Edited by E21_Ross on Wednesday 15th October 22:04

Oh, I have plenty of idea, thanks. There is a very, very good reason why the good universities do not cover this "science".

I guess that you have not done enough of the course yet to have got to the bit where they tell you that you can cure ear infections with spinal manipulations, but they will. Practitioners of Chiropractic also dispute that vaccination works,

To put it simply, the person who invented it simply made up "subluxion". Why do you think that medical science still has never found any evidence for these even existing?

www.badscience.net is a good resource for debunking quackery and the worse of the made-up medical practices, I recommend taking a look. Even wikipedia's entry does a decent job of pointing out that all of the supposed benefits are pretty well covered by the placebo effect and reversion to the mean.

One of the best reviews, however, is on quackwatch,

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/...

Seriously, of you have just started out, you still have the time to switch and do some real medicine instead. Yes, it will be harder work, and will take longer, but it will actually be based on real anatomy, not on the made up sort.