Opinions sought on possible imminent job change.
Opinions sought on possible imminent job change.
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Big Rod

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6,265 posts

246 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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The job I'm in is fairly dull to say the least at the moment. I can't complain about anything other than there's bu66er all to do just now. The salary's a shade over market rate, the team I work with are fantastic, my boss is pretty cool and as jobs go at the moment it's probably the most secure in the arena even though there's precious little work.

However, I've a very real chance at a step up the ladder with another company. The company's expanding globally in a controlled manner, my current skillset is key to the new position and I'd be moving into a position of increased accountability with the renumeration to match.

I'm assured, (as much as possible), that the position is secure and I do really need the change from a personal perspective but I have cold feet WRT jumping ship under the percieved financial climate.

Kindly express your thoughts.

Thanks in advance.

Scott328i

18,296 posts

231 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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possible imminent

isn't that a double entendre or something?

Big Rod

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6,265 posts

246 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Scott328i said:
possible imminent

isn't that a double entendre or something?
Actually you could be right. I'll see if I can change it.

ETA:- Can't see how to change the title. What I mean is that the opportunity I may have will present itself very soon. But I guess you knew that.

Edited by Big Rod on Friday 17th October 09:36

johnfm

13,751 posts

280 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Well, negotiate a 12 month notice period in the new contract. If they as secure as they say, and want you they will either agree to it or counter with, say, 6 months.

scotal

8,751 posts

309 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Go for it. Regret what you did, not what you didn't.

Big Rod

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Friday 17th October 2008
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johnfm said:
Well, negotiate a 12 month notice period in the new contract. If they as secure as they say, and want you they will either agree to it or counter with, say, 6 months.
Not a bad plan actually. I'll bear that one in mind. It might even do me some good to air this during the selection process as it'll show them I'm commited.

Thanks for that.

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

297 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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If it's a job with prospects then do it.

I've just changed employers (as at the start of Oct) and I have no regrets - better role, more responsibility and more wonga!

Do it, the general economy still needs to have a semblance of "business as usual" so assess the stability of the company you are considering moving to and have a chat to them at the interview.

Remember the interview is a "two way" scenario - you want to interview the new company as much as they want to interview you.

Good luck & keep us posted wink

Chris

Big Rod

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Friday 17th October 2008
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chris.mapey said:
If it's a job with prospects then do it.
There aren't any immediate prospects but the challenge of the new position excites me. Prospects will come later perhaps, but suffice it to say that I'll be jumping onto a very steep 'learning curve' initially so my main focus will be on that for some time rather than calculating my next move.

chris.mapey said:
I've just changed employers (as at the start of Oct) and I have no regrets - better role, more responsibility and more wonga!
Congratulations!

chris.mapey said:
Do it, the general economy still needs to have a semblance of "business as usual" so assess the stability of the company you are considering moving to and have a chat to them at the interview.
I like your thinking regarding the 'business as usual' ethic. I've already aired my concerns at the first stage of the process and as I say I've been assured, as much as it's possible to be, that the new position is secure and the company's in a very strong position. I'm inclined to believe that, but I can't help being tentative at this stage even in a heathy economy.

chris.mapey said:
Remember the interview is a "two way" scenario - you want to interview the new company as much as they want to interview you.
I have the same mindset and use the interview process as much to apease my concerns and queries as theirs. I often find an assertive stance eases the apprehensions of all the parties involved. I actually quite like interviews, they keep me on my toes.

chris.mapey said:
Good luck & keep us posted wink

Chris
Thanks Chris, will do.


Edited by Big Rod on Friday 17th October 09:58

chris.mapey

4,778 posts

297 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Big Rod said:
chris.mapey said:
If it's a job with prospects then do it.
There aren't any immediate prospects but the challenge of the new position excites me. Prospects will come later perhaps, but suffice it to say that I'll be jumping onto a very steep 'learning curve' initially so my main focus will be on that for some time rather than calculating my next move.
Rod - that to me counts as prospects wink

If it's a role that's going to extend you then, that will enhance your "personal development / skills set" (sorry wink) then that's going to further your prospects in the future - I'd view it as an investment....

If you are going to enjoy the challenge, then go for it.

When I changed jobs, it was a difficult move as I have left a blinding bunch of colleagues (I'm even still in contact with them outside of the office environment!), but I felt that the new role would offer me more challenges.

It is a higher profile role for a multi-national company, so the risk vs rewards are greater, but I believe that I can do the job!!

I'd say go and have the interview, and then you will be in a better position to make the decision, you can still say no!!

HTH (if I have)

Chris

Big Rod

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6,265 posts

246 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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chris.mapey said:
Big Rod said:
chris.mapey said:
If it's a job with prospects then do it.
There aren't any immediate prospects but the challenge of the new position excites me. Prospects will come later perhaps, but suffice it to say that I'll be jumping onto a very steep 'learning curve' initially so my main focus will be on that for some time rather than calculating my next move.
Rod - that to me counts as prospects wink

If it's a role that's going to extend you then, that will enhance your "personal development / skills set" (sorry wink) then that's going to further your prospects in the future - I'd view it as an investment....
Very valid points. I guess at this point I'm concentrating on the shorter range, but you are absolutely right, the experience gained in the potential position will stand me in good stead in the future. It's certainly not dead end.

chris.mapey said:
If you are going to enjoy the challenge, then go for it.
I've been treading water for a few years due to one thing or another. I'm more than ready to change a gear or two.

chris.mapey said:
When I changed jobs, it was a difficult move as I have left a blinding bunch of colleagues (I'm even still in contact with them outside of the office environment!), but I felt that the new role would offer me more challenges.
Been through that a few times myself. It is a wrench, but the sacrifice needs to be made for the greater good. I have many good friends that I've made during my professional career.

chris.mapey said:
It is a higher profile role for a multi-national company, so the risk vs rewards are greater, but I believe that I can do the job!!
Almost a CC of my situation then.

chris.mapey said:
I'd say go and have the interview, and then you will be in a better position to make the decision, you can still say no!!
Just been to the first stage and it's all good. The only reservation I had was about moving during the current climate. Hell, what's the worst that can happen? I'll just go back to contracting and pay the mortgage off in a couple of years!! smile

The other thing is that I've been referred by someone higher up the food chain so, much as I don't like tempting fate, it all seems to be in my favour.

chris.mapey said:
HTH (if I have)

Chris
Aye, thanks!! wink

Edited by Big Rod on Friday 17th October 10:33


Edited by Big Rod on Friday 17th October 10:34

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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swerni said:
OK my PH post has dropped and my golf has suffered, but its well worth it.
yep, we're all appreciating that smile


sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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fk all?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

279 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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yes

the day after he goes

when's he off?

Big Rod

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6,265 posts

246 months

Saturday 18th October 2008
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swerni said:
Nice stuff
Been in my current position for 3.5 of those earth year things. Time for a change methinks.

swerni said:
good luck
Thank you very much.

I have had a request for a second 'audience' at my earliest convenience. thumbup

Don't think I've ever had such a quick turnaround for a permanent job. It's looking good.

Fingers crossed and all that! wink

ETA :- Who the fvck's Timothy?

Edited by Big Rod on Saturday 18th October 00:36