Speed Trap Question

[count duckula]

I have 2 questions

Do all the scamera vans exclusively use lasers ?
and
Are specs to be found on anywhere except motorways ?

Anyone any ideas ????

Malc

[206xsi]

The Reading Talivan uses radar

There are SPECS on the Nottingham ring road

[will crash]

Met Police Camera vans use both Laser and mobile Gatso. In practice we alternate equipment from site to site to improve detection rates.

[BMWM]

Further when setting up a mobile speed trap what requirements are there in terms of notification that the trap is located at the site, for example, does a sign need to be shown at the location ? or a distance before the location ?

[count duckula]

Will

I have not come across the mobile gatso's before, can you tell any difference from the outside , ie must the gatso be on the outside of the van ?
Am I correct in assuming that when using radar it is less accurate and used for close up work or are they used the same as lasers ??

Malc

[deltaf]

will crash said:

Met Police Camera vans use both Laser and mobile Gatso. In practice we alternate equipment from site to site to make more revenue.

Sorry Will, just couldnt help myself!

[ledfoot]

count duckula said:

Are specs to be found on anywhere except motorways ? Anyone any ideas ???? Malc

SPECS is alive and well in Nottingham City centre, and also in Northampton on A43.

>> Edited by ledfoot on Tuesday 30th September 18:10

[Web Watcher]

Reading scamera vans use LASER, NOT RADAR !!!!!

There are two types of "safety Van".

Radar and Laser.

Radar vans have a mini-gatso setup infront of them, which uses "K band" radar, NOT the old style "Ku band" radar. These are mainly used in an urban setting, eg. A40 in London. The only defence is a radar detector.

Laser vans use Laser guns at 904 nm and the most common gun is the LTI 20.20 Marksman with video. These can be used on motorways on urban roads. The only defence is a laser jammer.

Cheers.

Web Watcher.

[Pies]

one mini gatso,unless im badly mistaken

now where did will's post go



>> Edited by Pies on Wednesday 1st October 15:14

[will crash]

count duckula said:

Will I have not come across the mobile gatso's before, can you tell any difference from the outside , ie must the gatso be on the outside of the van ? Am I correct in assuming that when using radar it is less accurate and used for close up work or are they used the same as lasers ?? Malc

Camera vans must be clearly marked and visible, although the interpretation of marked is wide open.
Mobile Gatso cameras are always situated outside the van, at the front. They are sat on top of a small tripod, and are usually painted yellow,about five metres along you will see a small blue flash unit.
Gatso is accurate, it does however have problems picking out speeding motorists in busy traffic.
Laser does not have this problem, the operator can pick out individual cars/bikes and obtain their speed with relative ease.
Deltaf your reply was most amusing!!!

[will crash]

Pies,
I have never seen that set up before, it looks nothing like the usual type of mobile Gatso. In fact it looks nothing like any type of speed detection equipment used in the Met. !!

[Pies]

mini gatso

[deltaf]

will crash said:

count duckula said: Will I have not come across the mobile gatso's before, can you tell any difference from the outside , ie must the gatso be on the outside of the van ? Am I correct in assuming that when using radar it is less accurate and used for close up work or are they used the same as lasers ?? Malc Camera vans must be clearly marked and visible, although the interpretation of marked is wide open. Mobile Gatso cameras are always situated outside the van, at the front. They are sat on top of a small tripod, and are usually painted yellow,about five metres along you will see a small blue flash unit. Gatso is accurate, it does however have problems picking out speeding motorists in busy traffic. Laser does not have this problem, the operator can pick out individual cars/bikes and obtain their speed with relative ease. Deltaf your reply was most amusing!!!

Lol, thought that would tickle you!

[regmolehusband]

In Shropshire the talivans are presently attached to the three Truvelo strips in the road and take a short video of anybody who passes over them in excess of the speed limit. This allows you to take the p*ss by dashing up to the strips hence giving the tw*t operator a moment of joy followed by heavy braking to speed limit minus 20, flick V sign, then acellerate once more to a safe sensible speed. Not that I've done this yet but will probably do so when they become more abundant.

I note they've also added new little parking pads on the safe A5 dual carriageway where there are no strips so they could well soon be using laser.

"Reg"

[ashes]

Don't forget the A616 Stocksbridge bypass J35a M1

[-Bacchus-]

regmolehusband said:

I note they've also added new little parking pads on the safe A5 dual carriageway where there are no strips so they could well soon be using laser.

They've used laser on the A5 for a few years now. After the M54, before the A49 goes up toward Battlefield.
There is a gateway on the left hand side of the road, which can conceal a car or more frequently bikes.
After a "pull", they can go back up the otherside, and there is an access turning to return them to the gateway.

[Web Watcher]

OLD style Mini-Gatso "Ku Band"

[pic]www.ukspeedtraps.co.uk/gif/minigatso.jpg [/pic]


NEW Style Mini-Gatso "K band" as used on the A40 in London and by Essex Police.

[pic] http://images.flitsservice.com/rpics_2003/04092003/n344/Foto_02_t.jpg [/pic]

.....I know the above picture is from a Dutch site, but Gatsos were invented in Holland.

Cheers.

Web Watcher.

[kevinday]

Web Watcher said:

The only defence is a radar detector. The only defence is a laser jammer.

Not quite true, the best defence is not to speed in the vicinity.