6 week detox..
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Papoo

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227 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Spurred on by a few recent weight-loss/wellbeing threads, my wife and I are engaging in a bit of a detox.. Not so much to lose weight, but to put some goodness back in us, and restore myself to previous fame..

We generally eat healthy stuff; skinless chicken breasts in a marinade of some description, with veggies being the most common evening meal, but, for the last month or so, we've been indulging in a fair bit of wine and eating out. At this point, I think both of our bodies are looking for some restoration. The idea being to consume a great deal of water each day, substitute a sandwich lunch for a box of carrots/celery/tomatoes with hummus, and to take out the '14 superfoods' as often as possible.

Fizzy drinks are always on the go with us, at any point in the day, we've probably got a caffeine-rich diet coke or something similar. Water, I think, will be the mainstay of liquid intake, as I'm unsure which drinks are laced with additives and artificial wrongness.. A glass of red now and again is going to be permissable, but we're not going past a glass, for the duration of the detox.

Breakfast is going to be a bran-flake type cereal, with raisins and other fruit, with a pot of some kind of 'living' yoghurt, like Activia. Lunch will be veggies, loads of them, and dinner will be something along the lines of a chicken breast with steamed veggies, maybe some brown rice. All along, trying to encompass said 14 foods, along with stuff like corriander, which aids detoxifying.

Anyone any hints or tips from experience of this kind of thing? It's the first time I've actually started one of these in a disciplined way, so I'm aiming to work pretty hard at it..

SS HSV

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287 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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I thought good plan until I reached the bit on fizzy drinks. Loads of sugar-based fizzy drinks are to be avoided.

Nothing wrong with the occasional /daily glass of red IMO smile

Papoo

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Monday 20th October 2008
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SS HSV said:
I thought good plan until I reached the bit on fizzy drinks. Loads of sugar-based fizzy drinks are to be avoided.

Nothing wrong with the occasional /daily glass of red IMO smile
Well, indeed. The fizzy drinks are definately going to have to go. They are normally sugar-free, but I'm guessing full of preservatives and artificial stuff.

Glass of red a couple of nights a week is definately a go..

singlecoil

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275 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Coke do a caffeine free, diet version, and it taste just like the real thing.

Broccers

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282 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Why bother ? No-one is going to live to 200 so just carry on as you were until you skip out of this life.

Edited by Broccers on Monday 20th October 20:16

Plotloss

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299 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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singlecoil said:
Coke do a caffeine free, diet version, and it taste just like the real thing.
No, it doesnt.


Papoo

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Monday 20th October 2008
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Broccers said:
Why bother ? No-one is going to live to 200 so just cary on as you were until you skip out of this life.
I'm not trying to live until I'm 200. I'm trying to restore my body with nutrients and minerals essential for being healthy, whilst trying to cut out the crap such as e-numbers, and artificial additives.

I know when my body is healthy, and after the summer I've had.. It's not right now!

How does diet, caffeine free coke stand up regarding artificial additives & chemicals? It could be a good respite. I am a DC addict, by all accounts.

carerra g tea

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249 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Just cut out the fizzy drinks. Caffeine or not. Something or the other has been added to take it from water to what it is when you drink it out of the can/bottle. Just cut that crap out. It's bad for you.

I like your diet, mostly, but I would avoid carbs at night. Save the rice for lunch.

Also, you should aim for six small meals.

MrVelox

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216 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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singlecoil said:
Coke do a caffeine free, diet version, and it taste just like the real thing.
You clearly need a new tongue, yours doesn't work.

Papoo

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Monday 20th October 2008
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carerra g tea said:
Also, you should aim for six small meals.
Would love to do this, although it isn't entirely practical. Will aim for carb intake to be at lunch, though. Cheers for the tip.

13th

3,169 posts

242 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Stop it!

This is life; none of us get out alive, enjoy it while you can biggrin

ATM

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248 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Think Caveman or Palaeolithic diet. So get rid of anything which has been near some form of machine or chemical process. So all you can eat is Fruit, Veg, Meat, Nuts and Fish. In the Caveman days eating was done as and when food was available. Six small meals is bks and takes far far far too much planning. If you cut the carbs out where possible [including fruit] you will generally feel less hungry - if you dont believe this then try it for a few days and let us know how you get on. Think about other mammals like dogs and leopards or whatever. These can usually manage with one meal every 2 days. I'm not saying eat once a week but there is evidence that when you are hungry the body produces Growth Hormone which is actually good for you. Anyway I'm going on now...

carmonk

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216 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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Eating healthily is good. I recommend it. But sorry to be the bearer of bad news, there is no such thing as a "detox". There is eating well and not eating well. The whole thing about flushing toxins from the system, drinking loads of water and the like is pure nonsense.

Papoo

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Monday 20th October 2008
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carmonk said:
Eating healthily is good. I recommend it. But sorry to be the bearer of bad news, there is no such thing as a "detox". There is eating well and not eating well. The whole thing about flushing toxins from the system, drinking loads of water and the like is pure nonsense.
There is very well documented research and evidence to the contrary...

carmonk

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Monday 20th October 2008
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Papoo said:
carmonk said:
Eating healthily is good. I recommend it. But sorry to be the bearer of bad news, there is no such thing as a "detox". There is eating well and not eating well. The whole thing about flushing toxins from the system, drinking loads of water and the like is pure nonsense.
There is very well documented research and evidence to the contrary...
Absolutely untrue. There is no scientific evidence suggesting that detox works. In fact the only scientific evidence relating to detox is that detox diets are dangerous.

There is of course documented "evidence" by the outlets that rake in the cash by foistering such crap on a gullible public...

swansea v6

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254 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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While studying for my Dietetics (applied human nutrition) degree, one of my lecturers basically dismissed all talk of "detoxifying" the body as bullst!!!!!

There is no clinical evidence to support it is as being good for us? And as he said at the time, our bodies have ther own highly efficient cleansing systems, i.e. liver, kidneys etc.....if our bodies could not detoxify themselves, then we would be dead either within a few days, or weeks of being born, (cant remember which!!)

There is tho a healthier lifestyle, which means eating certain foods which support all of our bodies functions. this is the avenue to take and please do not get hung up on the detoxify bks you hear advertised!!!!!!

Edited by swansea v6 on Monday 20th October 22:32

Papoo

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Monday 20th October 2008
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I stand corrected! There was, of course, no evidence to back up my previous post, I just thought I'd throw it in!

Anyhow, what you suggest is pretty much what we intend to do. Cut out crap, and put in several key foods known to help your body out.

carerra g tea

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249 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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There is the truth, and then there is the whole truth. Detox per se is bks, fair enough. But what the OP is trying to do is lessen the load on the detoxifying organs on his body. You don't think they can be overloaded because they are highly efficient? Fine, prove it, go drink four bottles of vodka.

Same for HGH and hunger levels and animal eating. It's comparing apples to anything but apples. Animals eat as they do (gorging when they can) simply because their next meal is not assured. Plus, their lifestyles are not sedentary. You don't see overweight animals in the wild, do you? Humans should not replicate animal eating habits simply because humans don't expend so much energy foraging for food and shelter. And humans do know (at least, the ones on PH) that they will be getting a square meal again in a few hours. So no, you shouldn't eat as much as you can, you shouldn't eat as fast as you can, and you shouldn't eat twice as much three times a day rather than six times a day. Your body's production of HGH will adjust, along with all your other bodily functions, to whatever you do (within limits, d'oh). Six smaller meals a day are found to be perfect for glycemic index levels, hunger levels, fatigue levels, etc., etc.

For those saying it's all the same, we all die, so enjoy while you can...um, you enjoy life a lot more when you are healthy, and you typically will live longer too. It's about quality of life. But if it makes you feel better about your own paunch, feel free to spout any nonsense you wish.

Nutrition is only half the battle, though. The other half is proper exercise, of course.

carerra g tea

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249 months

Monday 20th October 2008
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OP, you need to add some nuts (walnuts, almonds, etc.) into your diet. Perhaps mixed into the breakfast yoghurt?

And see if you can cook the chicken in canola oil. That's the healthiest kind.

Edited by carerra g tea on Monday 20th October 23:55

shadowninja

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311 months

Tuesday 21st October 2008
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Papoo said:
a pot of some kind of 'living' yoghurt, like Activia.
Just give me your money. Will do you just as good unless you have Crohn's, IBS or other serious digestion issues. Contrary to the advertising, you won't be doing any cartwheels after a week's supply of the stuff.

As for cutting out carbs, I rate dragging a blade up your inside leg from your ankle to your groin just as clever.

Fizzy drinks: avoid them all. Lots of sugar or sugar substitute (read chemicals). Drink plenty of water, tap or otherwise. Don't like the taste? Tough. thumbup

Oh, ok, try green or white tea, or jasmin or oolong (neither are actually "green teas").

PS I am big into healthy eating (couscous salad, anyone?) but think the detox thing is a load of bunkum. You might as well insert a hose into your bottom while you're at it...

Edited by shadowninja on Tuesday 21st October 00:28