Speed limiters

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JMorgan

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36,010 posts

297 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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He's at it again, the Chief Cons. of North Wales. Claims limiters are already in use in parts of Europe, is this right?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/wales/newsid_1790000/1790938.stm
Also spot the ref. from the RAC.

>>> Edited by JMorgan on Wednesday 30th January 11:04

PetrolTed

34,446 posts

316 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Takes a look at www.cybertrucker.co.uk for the anti-speed limiter argument. They argue that they've caused many accidents on lorries/coaches.

nubbin

6,809 posts

291 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Yes, I listened to the interview on 5live this morning. Totally frightening and disheartening to learn that the Police, in cahoots with HMG, are trying to make speeding as anti-social as drink driving, within a time frame of 10 years, using increased sanctions against speed. ie larger fines, increased numbers of speed cameras etc. How can we fight this unholy alliance, which is totally misguided, and addresses only one of a complex multifactorial elements of road injuries and deaths?

CarZee

13,382 posts

280 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Well I'm going to fight it by p155ing off to Australia because I've had enough of the b0110x we face here...

Fatboy

8,194 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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I'm all for speed limiters - get it fitted, checked, then disable it and tell the CPS to stick the speeding fine where the sun doesn't shine, as I've got a limiter fitted, so I couldn't possibly have been speeding - the equipment must be faulty

Don

28,378 posts

297 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Well I'm going to fight it by p155ing off to Australia because I've had enough of the b0110x we face here...



Australia: wonderful place. Used to live there.
In the cities the cops are more serious about speeding than they are here! And even hundreds of miles from anywhere - there can be a mobile speed trap.

Still. Way out there. How are they going to know?

Fatboy

8,194 posts

285 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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On a more serious note, just read the peice about speed limiters affecting road safety - I definately agree about the hypnotising effect of the engine noise! I used to have a summer job as a driver's mate for a delivery company, and sitting on the motorway you did find that you started to drift off after a while - the drivers used to say I was a great drivers mate, as I'm really chatty (well, never shut up actually), they needed something to stopt them dozing off!!! Scary when you think that the drivers need a distraction to keep them alert!

JMorgan

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36,010 posts

297 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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I don't have all the facts but chasing a few links on this and came across this www.cfit.gov.uk/mf/membership/index.htm
Wonder why the W.I. have a place here?

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mel

10,168 posts

288 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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He's at it again, the Chief Cons. of North Wales. Claims limiters are already in use in parts of Europe, is this right?




Voluntarily speed limiters are fitted by German manufacturers as standard so yes they are in use in parts of Europe. Its just there set at 155mph

Jason F

1,183 posts

297 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Voluntarily speed limiters are fitted by German manufacturers as standard so yes they are in use in parts of Europe. Its just there set at 155mph



A german told me that BMW ( I think it was ) started to fit limiters in order to keep the No Speed Limit on the Autobahn as people were complaining that BMW, Merc etc.. were going toooo fast. Is this true ?

Steve Harrison

461 posts

280 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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BBC have started a "Talking Point Forum" on it at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/talking_point/newsid_1791000/1791100.stm

Get your views in fast before the tree huggers do

Steve

hertsbiker

6,443 posts

284 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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oh god.
When are they going to f**k off and let us get on with driving. Mofo government has its head ups its arse and the rest of the country can see it, so why are they so f**king stupid?

Ooops sorry - I've been driving in London recently, and without my Geo, I'd be crapping myself. You spend more time looking at your goddamn speedo than the road, 'cos of some poxy gatsos. Very easy to crash into someone, or them to crash into you. HATE THIS MADNESS.

mel

10,168 posts

288 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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JasonF yes as far as I know this was the case in the same way that german bikes are limited (or were) to 100bhp

MattC

266 posts

288 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Well, I voted.

But then I looked at the email-your-comments form. And i just didn't know where to begin!

There is a danger that I will stay up all night writing a 10 page rant. I will then hit "Submit" and get some sort of error message, no doubt....

plotloss

67,280 posts

283 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Certaintly in Audi's, not sure about BMW and Merc you can remove the 155mph limiter as its only software controlled.

Matt.

Don

28,378 posts

297 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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I posted something.

Remember to use a nice catchphrase that the idiot media types think is cool or your post won't get included - whichever way (good idea or bad idea) your opinion might be.

I went for "Nanny State Nonsense" - come up with your own. Don't let the tree huggers get yet another petty victory in their fight against freedom.

marki

15,763 posts

283 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Voluntarily speed limiters are fitted by German manufacturers as standard so yes they are in use in parts of Europe. Its just there set at 155mph



A german told me that BMW ( I think it was ) started to fit limiters in order to keep the No Speed Limit on the Autobahn as people were complaining that BMW, Merc etc.. were going toooo fast. Is this true ?




I think Merc BMW and Audi made a gentlemens agreement to fit them to keep the greens quiet , Jaguar also fits them , but they are easy to disable (so i am told)



JMGS4

8,817 posts

283 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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More bullshit from political as opposed to real-life cops! Yes governors are fitted to umpteen BMWs, Mercs, Audis, but only to limit them to 250kph! this is to "protect" the engine according to Audi. These can all be removed by the driver as IT IS ILLEGAL in europe to limit a car to a speed limit. EC court case in 1998 threw out the wishes of Sweden to limit all vehicles to 90kph by bullshit pinko barstewards. Reason: an infringement of basic human rights! (also a possible CAUSE of accidents! even the Swedes ran for cover when they received that judgemment (and a more nanny-state than S you can't find!)
My vituperations on the BBC site may be published, if not one, can see the PC Censor at work!!!! again!!!

Don

28,378 posts

297 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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Yes. I reckon my posts (which were a lot less vitriolic than than they might have been!) won't make it either.....

M-Five

11,662 posts

297 months

Wednesday 30th January 2002
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The reason that the new Bentley is the 'fastest production saloon in the world' at only 165mph is that VW do not abide by the 155mph/250kph 'gentlemens agreement' that BMW/Audi/Mercedes do - otherwise the M3, M5, E55 would have 180mph top speeds!

Neither do Porsche BTW!

Although it was ridiculously easy to bypass my M5's limiter with a re-chip!