stereo upgrade
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racebreed1

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498 posts

209 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2008
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want to change my stereo however i would love to leave the speakers in as im happy with the sound quality of the system.

i understand the speakers are 2 ohm are they not and a standard stereo runs 4 ohms?

is there an adaptor to sort the signal so i can leave my speakers in place?

racebreed1

Original Poster:

498 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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anyone swapped their standard radio and not the speakers and it been ok?

s11lmx

248 posts

231 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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[tumble weed].......

I don't think so fella, I asked in Sungold Autosounds in Newcastle the other night for you.

Got no direct answer ....

S600VXR

5,877 posts

223 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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It will work but you will draw alot of power through the head unit and it may cut out on overtemp... or blow the amp if you get carried away with the volume.

TBH the standard speakers are your holding factor so these really need to be changed to improve the sound!

Oh and BTW - its not just a simple swap for another double din unit! you will need the surround and a PAC audio addaptor lead which needs modifying or at least programing.

Im just in the process of changing all mone out, have put 4ohm 250 watt speakers all around and larger subs in the rear sides, 3 amps mounted in the boot drive this lot, just deciding which head unit to purchase.

racebreed1

Original Poster:

498 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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S600VXR said:
It will work but you will draw alot of power through the head unit and it may cut out on overtemp... or blow the amp if you get carried away with the volume.

TBH the standard speakers are your holding factor so these really need to be changed to improve the sound!

Oh and BTW - its not just a simple swap for another double din unit! you will need the surround and a PAC audio addaptor lead which needs modifying or at least programing.

Im just in the process of changing all mone out, have put 4ohm 250 watt speakers all around and larger subs in the rear sides, 3 amps mounted in the boot drive this lot, just deciding which head unit to purchase.


just had a good chat with RMD audio and they have quoted to replace the speakers with a proper brand all inclusive £300ish so not too bad

I know i need to buy an adaptor for the double din, with regard to the pac audio adaptor im not sure this will work as im likely to be buying a chinese all in nav, stereo jobby so may well lose sterring wheel control, but thats not a big issue for me to be honest. If it will work then great but not sure how

S600VXR

5,877 posts

223 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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£300 seems cheap when it's time consuming to remove the door and rear trims.... Do it yourself and spend the full £300 on the speakers!

racebreed1

Original Poster:

498 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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S600VXR said:
£300 seems cheap when it's time consuming to remove the door and rear trims.... Do it yourself and spend the full £300 on the speakers!


that wasnt for the parcel shelf speakers only the fronts tweeters and rear door ones

anonymous-user

77 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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racebreed1 said:
just had a good chat with RMD audio and they have quoted to replace the speakers with a proper brand all inclusive £300ish so not too bad


Really tempted to get mine replaced. I wonder how much they'll charge for a complete system inc amps HU etc? They've done a few Monaros so at least they probably know what they're doing.

melchett

817 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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racebreed1 said:

i understand the speakers are 2 ohm are they not and a standard stereo runs 4 ohms?


Are you sure the standard speakers are 2 ohm? I would be surprised if this was the case because most standard head units and speakers I have seen are 4 ohm systems. Usually, if you want to run an amp at 2 ohm you have to make sure the amp itself is 2 ohm stable. This is not usually the case for a standard head unit.

Also, most standard fit speakers are really poor quality, even ones that are reportedly from a manufactuer such as BOSE. The cones are a dead giveaway, if they are paper, get rid. I checked out the speakers in a Mazda 6 with the BOSE system and even those speakers were Pi$$ poor, crappy plastic cones and tiny driver (magnet).

By spending as little as £60 on a pair of 160mm 2ways you can make massive improvements in the sound. I would suggest that as a first step, or a new head unit and speakers. If you change the head unit and not the speakers, the sound could still be poor due to the shoddy speakers.

melchett

817 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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racebreed1 said:

is there an adaptor to sort the signal so i can leave my speakers in place?


BTW, the most obvious 'adapter' that I can think of would be a 2 ohm resistor in series with the speaker.

racebreed1

Original Poster:

498 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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melchett said:
racebreed1 said:

i understand the speakers are 2 ohm are they not and a standard stereo runs 4 ohms?


Are you sure the standard speakers are 2 ohm? I would be surprised if this was the case because most standard head units and speakers I have seen are 4 ohm systems. Usually, if you want to run an amp at 2 ohm you have to make sure the amp itself is 2 ohm stable. This is not usually the case for a standard head unit.

Also, most standard fit speakers are really poor quality, even ones that are reportedly from a manufactuer such as BOSE. The cones are a dead giveaway, if they are paper, get rid. I checked out the speakers in a Mazda 6 with the BOSE system and even those speakers were Pi$$ poor, crappy plastic cones and tiny driver (magnet).

By spending as little as £60 on a pair of 160mm 2ways you can make massive improvements in the sound. I would suggest that as a first step, or a new head unit and speakers. If you change the head unit and not the speakers, the sound could still be poor due to the shoddy speakers.



whole system is deffo 2 ohm

melchett

817 posts

209 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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[quote=racebreed1
whole system is deffo 2 ohm[/quote]

OK, the most obvious advice would be the match the resistance of the new head unit you want with an equivalent pair of speakers. There are 2 ohm stable HU's out there. Or treat yourself to a new 4 ohm HU and speakers, job done and you have nothing to worry about.

However, if you did run 2 ohm speakers on a 4 ohm HU the there is the risk of damaging the amp. But, that is not to say you would fry the amp, it is possible and perhaps not worth the risk. Basically, if your amp is 50w at 4 ohm, it would need 100w to run a 2 ohm load equally.

It may be worth thinking about how loud you want the system to go. If you dont usually crank it up you could be ok with the standard speakers. (sorry this doesnt help much)