World without religion - Discuss
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Was wondering today how different the world would be if there was no religion.
I personally dont believe having faith in any of them makes you a better/worse person.
I'm a total non believer and like to think I'm a decent citizen. Not perfect but I know right from wrong and try and lead a peaceful existance willing to help my fellow man when they need it.
Main thing I can think of is all the wars that have been fought where religion has played some part. I know a few have actually been over land etc.
Plus you wouldnt need any "No religious callers" stickers on your porch door.
So what do the masses think?
How different a place would the world be if we all believed in evolution only and religion did not exist at all.
I personally dont believe having faith in any of them makes you a better/worse person.
I'm a total non believer and like to think I'm a decent citizen. Not perfect but I know right from wrong and try and lead a peaceful existance willing to help my fellow man when they need it.
Main thing I can think of is all the wars that have been fought where religion has played some part. I know a few have actually been over land etc.
Plus you wouldnt need any "No religious callers" stickers on your porch door.
So what do the masses think?
How different a place would the world be if we all believed in evolution only and religion did not exist at all.
Religion has contributed good as well as bad. Remember to subtract all the good things too when thinking about a world without religion. For example, faith schools tend to get better educational results than non-faith schools, so you need to reduce the average level of education when removing religion.
I'm also of the opinion that religion is an excuse not a reason in many conflicts. It's a convenient flag to wave when trying to drum up support for a cause. The assumption that there would be fewer conflicts without religion is not well founded IMO.
Personally, I'm not religious but have no objection to others being so while they have no objection to me. Live and let live.
I'm also of the opinion that religion is an excuse not a reason in many conflicts. It's a convenient flag to wave when trying to drum up support for a cause. The assumption that there would be fewer conflicts without religion is not well founded IMO.
Personally, I'm not religious but have no objection to others being so while they have no objection to me. Live and let live.
Edited by ewenm on Wednesday 22 October 22:06
Religion is neither inherently good nor is it inherently evil. It is merely an excuse for evil men to commit evil and a explanation for good people to do good.
If we did not have religion then there would be plenty of other excuses to have wars like what colour hats we wore
If we did not have religion then there would be plenty of other excuses to have wars like what colour hats we wore
internet article said:
The supreme deity in their religion is Cloister. Legend has it that Cloister was frozen in time to save Frankenstein, the Holy Mother of the cat-people. He would eventually return and lead the cat-people to Fushal (I always thought it was spelled Fyushal in Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers but resiak (user) swears it's Fushal in the Official Programme Guide, so I use this latter spelling), the Promised Land. After arriving at Fushal, the cats will be able to partake of all manner of hotdog and donut and they would wear hats of great majesty, though they be made of colored cardboard and have humorous arrows through the top. At least, that's what legend says. This is actually their interpretation of Lister's plan to open a hotdog and donut diner stand on Fiji, but three million years of retelling the tale warped the names and events beyond recognition.
Most of the cats on Red Dwarf died in Holy Wars fought between the two factions -- those who thought the hats should be red and those who thought the hats should be blue. Daft, especially since, according to Lister, they were supposed to be green. The cats not killed in Holy Wars built two arks, one for red-hats and one for blue-hats, and they left Red Dwarf in search of Fushal. They used a star chart Cloister supposedly left for Frankenstein. The sacred writings read "Seven socks. One shirt." Unfortunately, Lister had lined Frankenstein's basket with his laundry list. So one ark crashed into a comet, and the other flew onward forever.
If it was not religion then we would find something else to follow like football but personally i already believe that football is actually a form of religion and so maybe is the realm of science as particle physics is starting to get even sillier then most religions Most of the cats on Red Dwarf died in Holy Wars fought between the two factions -- those who thought the hats should be red and those who thought the hats should be blue. Daft, especially since, according to Lister, they were supposed to be green. The cats not killed in Holy Wars built two arks, one for red-hats and one for blue-hats, and they left Red Dwarf in search of Fushal. They used a star chart Cloister supposedly left for Frankenstein. The sacred writings read "Seven socks. One shirt." Unfortunately, Lister had lined Frankenstein's basket with his laundry list. So one ark crashed into a comet, and the other flew onward forever.
I always wondered how different our laws would be.
You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour
To my mind those out of the ten commandments are the ones that have pretty much directly made their way into modern law. I'd be interested to hear about societies that developed without any exposure to the texts they were derived from and if they had those laws, and how they came about.
Meh. im in an inquisitive mood
must be from watching Rome on tv.. great series.
You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour
To my mind those out of the ten commandments are the ones that have pretty much directly made their way into modern law. I'd be interested to hear about societies that developed without any exposure to the texts they were derived from and if they had those laws, and how they came about.
Meh. im in an inquisitive mood
must be from watching Rome on tv.. great series.
shouldbworking said:
I always wondered how different our laws would be.
You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour
To my mind those out of the ten commandments are the ones that have pretty much directly made their way into modern law. I'd be interested to hear about societies that developed without any exposure to the texts they were derived from and if they had those laws, and how they came about.
Meh. im in an inquisitive mood must be from watching Rome on tv.. great series.
3 of those are laws that are established in basically all societies, regardless of religion (the definition of adultery can vary a bit...). It would be tricky to have a society without them I think.You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour
To my mind those out of the ten commandments are the ones that have pretty much directly made their way into modern law. I'd be interested to hear about societies that developed without any exposure to the texts they were derived from and if they had those laws, and how they came about.
Meh. im in an inquisitive mood
must be from watching Rome on tv.. great series.
shouldbworking said:
I always wondered how different our laws would be.
You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour
To my mind those out of the ten commandments are the ones that have pretty much directly made their way into modern law. I'd be interested to hear about societies that developed without any exposure to the texts they were derived from and if they had those laws, and how they came about.
I suppose in early days religion and law came together - both were ways of controlling the population.You shall not murder
You shall not commit adultery
You shall not steal
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbour
To my mind those out of the ten commandments are the ones that have pretty much directly made their way into modern law. I'd be interested to hear about societies that developed without any exposure to the texts they were derived from and if they had those laws, and how they came about.
I agree the '10 commandments' are pretty fundamental to civilised society but you don't need a God to have them. And I know a few so-called 'christians' who are more than happy to commit adultery. I really hate hypocrites... blither about 'thou thalt not commit adultery' on Sunday then get stuck in when nobody's looking...
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