GKN Differential
GKN Differential
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Z5Roadster

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173 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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95 Chimaera with GKN Diff, think thats right it has cooling fins on the back casing. I'm looking to change the oil but redface is the filler plug at the back above the rear exhaust mounting? If it is do I need to drop the rear end of the exhaust or does the underbody section of exhaust need to be removed completely. The bible seems a bit grey in this area. It has crossed my mind to cut a 1" dia hole in the bottom front section of the boot and seal it with a rubber blanking plug but as yet not checked that one out.

The AJP Griff

4,360 posts

286 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Managed to get at mine using a spanner on a drain plug key.

Z5Roadster

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173 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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I've got the back-end up on axel stands, above the exhaust mounting is the rear cross member of the chassis, the plug is above all this, it all looks very tight.

Red Cabbage

3,606 posts

263 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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There appears to be some slight variations of the GKN diff. Mine has a drain plug on the bottom and a filling plug on the offside. Both can be accessed (I use the term loosely) without taking the exhaust off.

That Daddy

19,463 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Red Cabbage said:
There appears to be some slight variations of the GKN diff. Mine has a drain plug on the bottom and a filling plug on the offside. Both can be accessed (I use the term loosely) without taking the exhaust off.
yes supposed to have more oil capacity so i am told, your one that is wink i have seen three 95 Chims and one 96 Griff with the rear filler,but i had a 94 Chim on the ramp recently with the larger cover fitted scratchchin all cars fitted with GKN units.

Z5Roadster

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239 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Red Cabbage
I was told that it was quite easy, just take the offside rear wheel off and your there, he must have had the same rear casting as yours furious, thanks

Edited by Z5Roadster on Thursday 23 October 21:59

That Daddy

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252 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Z5Roadster said:
I was told that it was quite easy, just take the offside rear wheel off and your there, he must have had the same rear casting as yours furious, thanks
Thats why you will find mole grip marks on the filler plug on the cars with the rear filling diffs(lazy bast*rds)you can wiggle a short extension on a ratchet to get to the filler plug with your hands shoved thru the chassis tubes(fiddly though)coming in from the nearside,its the getting the oil in thats the pig rolleyesone thing i have noticed with my spare stripped on the bench is that you can only get about 70% of the total capacity of the old oil out when draining,not ony is the drain plug in the wrong position but the drain threaded boss is raised on the inside meaning that some of the old dregs of oil stay put behind the pinion bearings housings rolleyes still could be worse could be a Ford with no drainplug,oil lasts for differentials lifespan according to Fords litrature eek

Edited by That Daddy on Thursday 23 October 22:08

Z5Roadster

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173 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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I have pipegrip teeth marks on mine, you have had quite a few of these to do then! I filled my gearbox by running 16mm bore tube up to the bulkhead with a copper elbow going into the box. Do you think the idea of the 1" hole is possible? Thanks for That Daddy

Edited by Z5Roadster on Thursday 23 October 22:16

That Daddy

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252 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Z5Roadster said:
I have pipegrip teeth marks on mine, you have had quite a few of these to do then! I filled my gearbox by running 16mm bore tube up to the bulkhead with a copper elbow going into the box. Do you think the idea of the 1" hole is possible? Thanks for The Daddy
We are busy on here tonight laugh i cant see why a hole with a bung would be a bad idea Roadster(seems like a good one)all the GKN units i have seen have had Gripmarks rolleyes one is my own and the other three i maintain(the other one is me bruvs)all had dealer history at some point scratchchin maybe the Grips was a special tool used by them laugh

Red Cabbage

3,606 posts

263 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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That Daddy said:
Red Cabbage said:
There appears to be some slight variations of the GKN diff. Mine has a drain plug on the bottom and a filling plug on the offside. Both can be accessed (I use the term loosely) without taking the exhaust off.
yes supposed to have more oil capacity so i am told, your one that is wink i have seen three 95 Chims and one 96 Griff with the rear filler,but i had a 94 Chim on the ramp recently with the larger cover fitted scratchchin all cars fitted with GKN units.
Which has the larger capacity my side filler or Roadsters rear filler?

That Daddy

19,463 posts

252 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Red Cabbage said:
That Daddy said:
Red Cabbage said:
There appears to be some slight variations of the GKN diff. Mine has a drain plug on the bottom and a filling plug on the offside. Both can be accessed (I use the term loosely) without taking the exhaust off.
yes supposed to have more oil capacity so i am told, your one that is wink i have seen three 95 Chims and one 96 Griff with the rear filler,but i had a 94 Chim on the ramp recently with the larger cover fitted scratchchin all cars fitted with GKN units.
Which has the larger capacity my side filler or Roadsters rear filler?
Side filler as the bigger capacity thumbup

Red Cabbage

3,606 posts

263 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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That Daddy said:
Red Cabbage said:
That Daddy said:
Red Cabbage said:
There appears to be some slight variations of the GKN diff. Mine has a drain plug on the bottom and a filling plug on the offside. Both can be accessed (I use the term loosely) without taking the exhaust off.
yes supposed to have more oil capacity so i am told, your one that is wink i have seen three 95 Chims and one 96 Griff with the rear filler,but i had a 94 Chim on the ramp recently with the larger cover fitted scratchchin all cars fitted with GKN units.
Which has the larger capacity my side filler or Roadsters rear filler?
Side filler has the bigger capacity thumbup
Thanks I'll remember that when I take it out this winter.

Edited by Red Cabbage on Thursday 23 October 22:53

Z5Roadster

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173 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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That Daddy said:
supposed to have more oil capacity.
Should the filler be used as an oil level, or fill with the recommended quantity

spend

12,581 posts

282 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Mine takes 2.5l, quickest way to trash the diff is not enough oil and nose bearing runs dry then bingbangbong. Waste a little oil AND check the level afterwards to be sure!

Z5Roadster

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173 posts

239 months

Thursday 23rd October 2008
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Tomorrow I will slide underneath, checkout the extra hole method first, if it works it will also get over the filling problem, will post my findings. Thanks Guys waveywavey

That Daddy

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252 months

Friday 24th October 2008
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spend said:
Mine takes 2.5l, quickest way to trash the diff is not enough oil and nose bearing runs dry then bingbangbong. Waste a little oil AND check the level afterwards to be sure!
yes always worth checking smile

Edited by That Daddy on Friday 24th October 08:12

Z5Roadster

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173 posts

239 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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No No No! Forget the idea of an access hole. Somebodies put an aluminium tank in the boot which goes right to the floor, Don't think we want to drill a hole thru that.
Red Cabbage said:
There appears to be some slight variations of the GKN diff.
This is what I finished up doing. Using a 3/8 drive-1/2 adaptor with 3/8 tee bar (without the bar) I had a go situation, but the exhaust rear mounting plate was in the way of getting the tee bar into the hole.So dropped the anti roll bar from its 4 fixings, off with the rear exhaust mountings so that the pipes rested on the anti roll bar, This gave enough room to unscrew the little blighter. What a pig of a job, dont think the exhaust headers were much worse of a job to do.

That Daddy

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252 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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So good he said it twice laugh

Z5Roadster

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Friday 31st October 2008
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That Daddy said:
So good he said it twice laugh
Good job somebody's keeping an eye on me laugh