Is This Worth It?
Discussion
OK -need advice -this is my PH ad:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/749163.htm
This is my website page that I asked the guy to use info from the PH ad.
http://www.flyingbluedog.co.uk/
Frankly, I was dissappointed, and said so....
"Er, I don't know what I was expecting but a straight lift from my PH
ad was not it -frankly, for £350 I'm disappointed, to say the least!!
Tried a google and it doesn't come up.
Look forward to your feedback....
Rgds
Mel"
Here is his reply...comments??? Am I being unfair??
"Mel,
It is not a straight lift – it is similar – we have created a top
layout and created the logo from scratch so we can now use it
elsewhere if you need for advertising. Normally this would be
£120-£150+Vat on its own (ask any web design company the cost of
creating a bespoke logo).
We have recreated the photo gallery using our photo gallery coding at
the top of the page which looks similar but is better quality than the
one on the original site.
I think it looks ok and better that the original site - what would you
like to change?
It takes 6-12 weeks to get into Google – if they accept your site as
there is no guarantees they will - and it needs to be submitted to
Google!
Your price also included the years hosting which is normally
£10/month+VAT = £120+VAT.
All in all I think you have a very good deal and done in very short
time as well!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/749163.htm
This is my website page that I asked the guy to use info from the PH ad.
http://www.flyingbluedog.co.uk/
Frankly, I was dissappointed, and said so....
"Er, I don't know what I was expecting but a straight lift from my PH
ad was not it -frankly, for £350 I'm disappointed, to say the least!!
Tried a google and it doesn't come up.
Look forward to your feedback....
Rgds
Mel"
Here is his reply...comments??? Am I being unfair??
"Mel,
It is not a straight lift – it is similar – we have created a top
layout and created the logo from scratch so we can now use it
elsewhere if you need for advertising. Normally this would be
£120-£150+Vat on its own (ask any web design company the cost of
creating a bespoke logo).
We have recreated the photo gallery using our photo gallery coding at
the top of the page which looks similar but is better quality than the
one on the original site.
I think it looks ok and better that the original site - what would you
like to change?
It takes 6-12 weeks to get into Google – if they accept your site as
there is no guarantees they will - and it needs to be submitted to
Google!
Your price also included the years hosting which is normally
£10/month+VAT = £120+VAT.
All in all I think you have a very good deal and done in very short
time as well!
I suppose it depends on the original brief, but for comparison:
http://www.onepagewebsitedesign.com/
http://www.gotlogos.com/
£120 + VAT for the logo + website
£10p/m seems like a lot for hosting?
However some UK design companies can charge £500+ for a logo.
Overall, probably not as cheap as you could have got it for, but also probably not a rip off if they met your brief.
http://www.onepagewebsitedesign.com/
http://www.gotlogos.com/
£120 + VAT for the logo + website
£10p/m seems like a lot for hosting?
However some UK design companies can charge £500+ for a logo.
Overall, probably not as cheap as you could have got it for, but also probably not a rip off if they met your brief.
It's a shame that someone (or was it a Team;)) has been so lazy with this. It's quite blatant too.
From my basic knowledge and use of GIMP / Photoshop, I'd say there is about 20 minutes work in the logo.
It makes the pages and logos I put together look almost professional....
Hope you get it sorted out.
Phil
From my basic knowledge and use of GIMP / Photoshop, I'd say there is about 20 minutes work in the logo.
It makes the pages and logos I put together look almost professional....
Hope you get it sorted out.
Phil
melv said:
OK -need advice -this is my PH ad:
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/749163.htm
This is my website page that I asked the guy to use info from the PH ad.
http://www.flyingbluedog.co.uk/
Frankly, I was dissappointed, and said so....
"Er, I don't know what I was expecting but a straight lift from my PH
ad was not it -frankly, for £350 I'm disappointed, to say the least!!
Tried a google and it doesn't come up.
Look forward to your feedback....
Rgds
Mel"
Here is his reply...comments??? Am I being unfair??
"Mel,
It is not a straight lift – it is similar – we have created a top
layout and created the logo from scratch so we can now use it
elsewhere if you need for advertising. Normally this would be
£120-£150+Vat on its own (ask any web design company the cost of
creating a bespoke logo).
We have recreated the photo gallery using our photo gallery coding at
the top of the page which looks similar but is better quality than the
one on the original site.
I think it looks ok and better that the original site - what would you
like to change?
It takes 6-12 weeks to get into Google – if they accept your site as
there is no guarantees they will - and it needs to be submitted to
Google!
Your price also included the years hosting which is normally
£10/month+VAT = £120+VAT.
All in all I think you have a very good deal and done in very short
time as well!
agreed, that website is pants, straight copy, the company you paid should be ashaimed!http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/749163.htm
This is my website page that I asked the guy to use info from the PH ad.
http://www.flyingbluedog.co.uk/
Frankly, I was dissappointed, and said so....
"Er, I don't know what I was expecting but a straight lift from my PH
ad was not it -frankly, for £350 I'm disappointed, to say the least!!
Tried a google and it doesn't come up.
Look forward to your feedback....
Rgds
Mel"
Here is his reply...comments??? Am I being unfair??
"Mel,
It is not a straight lift – it is similar – we have created a top
layout and created the logo from scratch so we can now use it
elsewhere if you need for advertising. Normally this would be
£120-£150+Vat on its own (ask any web design company the cost of
creating a bespoke logo).
We have recreated the photo gallery using our photo gallery coding at
the top of the page which looks similar but is better quality than the
one on the original site.
I think it looks ok and better that the original site - what would you
like to change?
It takes 6-12 weeks to get into Google – if they accept your site as
there is no guarantees they will - and it needs to be submitted to
Google!
Your price also included the years hosting which is normally
£10/month+VAT = £120+VAT.
All in all I think you have a very good deal and done in very short
time as well!
I think it's OTT for what's been done, I don't do much front end stuff (it's a means to an end for me rather than an end in it's self) but I even noticed the link to your Pistonheads ad doesn't even work, a 2 second check.
Without wishing to hijack the thread - the gallery they've used I've seen on a number of sites now I assume it's javascript\css driven? Either way is there an explanation on the net of how it works?
Without wishing to hijack the thread - the gallery they've used I've seen on a number of sites now I assume it's javascript\css driven? Either way is there an explanation on the net of how it works?
Guys
Many, many thanks for your time and trouble and PM's!!
Fortunately, I have not handed over a bean!
I will be copying your comments to him.....
Basically, at the end of the day I want a website that will sell the company!!
And the logo?
A straight lift from my camera phone pic of the signwriting on my 4x4, so hardly any work there!!! It took my guy five minutes with an off the shelf jpeg and a bit of bending of the writing and then straight onto the vinyl laser cutter!!
Thanks again for your feedback and offers -will keep you posted.
Rgds
Mel
Many, many thanks for your time and trouble and PM's!!
Fortunately, I have not handed over a bean!
I will be copying your comments to him.....
Basically, at the end of the day I want a website that will sell the company!!
And the logo?
A straight lift from my camera phone pic of the signwriting on my 4x4, so hardly any work there!!! It took my guy five minutes with an off the shelf jpeg and a bit of bending of the writing and then straight onto the vinyl laser cutter!!
Thanks again for your feedback and offers -will keep you posted.
Rgds
Mel
That makes it even worse - the fact that you've given them the logo to use...they havn't created anything unique just made an electronic version of it. I know people in business have got to make money but that is taking the wee. No effort whatsoever on their part and they expect you to hand over £350. Tell them to shove it.
John
John
melv said:
And the logo?
A straight lift from my camera phone pic of the signwriting on my 4x4, so hardly any work there!!! It took my guy five minutes with an off the shelf jpeg and a bit of bending of the writing and then straight onto the vinyl laser cutter!!
Ah. In that case, as others have said, you've been done. I'm sure many people would have knocked you up a page like that for free in the hope of future work.A straight lift from my camera phone pic of the signwriting on my 4x4, so hardly any work there!!! It took my guy five minutes with an off the shelf jpeg and a bit of bending of the writing and then straight onto the vinyl laser cutter!!
melv said:
It is not a straight lift – it is similar – we have created a top
layout and created the logo from scratch so we can now use it
elsewhere if you need for advertising. Normally this would be
£120-£150+Vat on its own (ask any web design company the cost of
creating a bespoke logo).
It takes 6-12 weeks to get into Google – if they accept your site as
there is no guarantees they will - and it needs to be submitted to
Google!
Your price also included the years hosting which is normally
£10/month+VAT = £120+VAT.
- I pay £150+vat for logo design and that includes two or three inital versions then a couple of refinements.layout and created the logo from scratch so we can now use it
elsewhere if you need for advertising. Normally this would be
£120-£150+Vat on its own (ask any web design company the cost of
creating a bespoke logo).
It takes 6-12 weeks to get into Google – if they accept your site as
there is no guarantees they will - and it needs to be submitted to
Google!
Your price also included the years hosting which is normally
£10/month+VAT = £120+VAT.
- £10 a month hosting is not crazy at all, you can get hosting for pennies a year, but usually that is resold reseller stuff with a 13yo as 'tech support'.
- Sites can be submitted to google, what is better is to link to it from already spidered sites. The time lag he quotes is about right.
It does seem expensive for what it is, I would suggest going back asking for:
- Say you wish to have the original files (ie. png's NOT gif/JPGs) for the logo so you can use them for letterheads and the like.
- Ask for full information on your hosting package ie. how many email addresses you are allowed etc
- Further to that, ask for FTP info so you can ammend the site direct.
A plus point is the domain has been registered in your name
It is one of those things, people have to make money, but this is at the lower end of the quality scale for what you should get for £350 IMHO.
Plotloss said:
Oh and another thing.
To get your site on Google doesnt require it to be submitted, Google will find it.
Submissions are a largely pointless idea and some say submission actively works against you.
Agreed. But Google will only find your site if another site links to it, so be sure that the site that links to yours is already indexed by Google.To get your site on Google doesnt require it to be submitted, Google will find it.
Submissions are a largely pointless idea and some say submission actively works against you.
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